Greg Munt wrote:

> I agree.
>
> It seems to me that this is a poor to average-level

> java programmer


  1) How do you come to that conclusion ?
  2) If true, so what ?  We're here to learn, right ?

> with interests in 3D and human animation.


  True.

> He seems to think that he can elevate his

> position in the community by attempting to

> blacken the reputation of people of very

> high standing in the community.
>


  I posted to this list that I had used the
Sun VRML Loaders to animate VRML based
Human Avatars and someone ( you know who )
wrote that no one could do what I had done,
which I found offensive, it's an insult to

* EVERYONE * on this list ...

* He * tried and failed, so no one can ...

That's not true, and not helpful, and insulting.

I'm trying to sets the facts straight.


> At the very least, the point of his posts

> seem to be to convince people that Java is

> something that can do 3D well.

 >

> Given the lists that he posts to, this

> would seem to be a case of preaching to

> the converted. In other words, pointless.
>


  Correct to a point, I think Java works well,
it works well for me, and I also post to people in
the VRML and H-Anim lists that are skeptical
about Java, or believe Java doesn't work well.

  But people mostly write about problems,

  some might think it's nice to here about successes.

  If you did something that works well, I 'd be
glad to hear about it.

  A little more tolerance please.

  I can now run VRML animations in the Mozilla
browser with Java3d and the Sun VRML Loaders:

  animate Web3d's H-Anim Avatars with Gestures
in responce to moucse clicks on the VRML sensors.

  I agree people try to hurt the reputations of
others to benefit themselves, and that was in
the post: I was attacked unfairly on this list
( as you can see in the post ) and I am saying
exactly what you are:

  People should not do that.

  I agree with you 100%.

  I am interested in human animation with Java3d.

  If the topic doesn't interest you, don't read it.

  But it might be of interest to others.

  I do get favorable private e-mails from people.

  But you wouldn't know.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacob Marner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Multi-User Worlds & Networking with 3d clients:
> Portability gives Economy.
>
>
>
>>Why does this guy keep posting long spam posts on this
>>mailing list? And if only he would speak in full sentences.
>>I am in favor of banning...
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "P. Flavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 17:01
>>Subject: [JAVA3D] Multi-User Worlds & Networking with 3d clients:
>>
> Portability
>
>>gives Economy.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  VRML 3d Multi-User Networked Worlds
>>>  -----------------------------------
>>>   -  Free Source Available:  Java, naturally.
>>>
>>>
>>... and so on
>>
>>
>>
> ========================================================
>


  Relax and think happy thoughts.

  Play a game or two :
  -------------------
  http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java_games.html

( Java games ) Some written by poor to average programmers.


  The good news is that even poor to average programmers ...

  can get good to great results with Java.

--  Have a nice day.

  -- Paul,  Java Developer & Web Animator
  -----------------------------------------------------
"Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"

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