Very well said. What we are releasing on Thursday is the beginning of  
something, not the end. Something which I find is very exciting. I  
hope you will as well.

- j

On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:36 PM, DAemon wrote:

>
> Uh, I just wanted to point out that JavaFX, even 'though it's being
> released at a 1.0 is by no means a complete technology, nor is it a
> mature technology. Several key parts of JavaFX, including the
> much-touted 3D support, have yet to be included, because they weren't
> stable enough to go into the 1.0.
>
> The fact that the Java APIs aren't finished isn't about spitting in
> the face of existing developers, it's about getting a functional
> version of JavaFX out there with the ability to grow and develop over
> time. You can't get everything into a 1.0, otherwise you'd never
> release.
>
> Personally, I'm really excited about JavaFX. I'm not a Swing
> developer, I find the way it works too complex and powerful, and
> always wind up shooting myself in the foot, and so I'm looking forward
> to trying out a new way of doing UI design (and one that's much
> friendlier to my graphic designer partner, as well).
>
> Just on a side note, this thread would be a lot easier to read (and
> possibly more useful) if people kept on topic - sensible questions
> about JavaFX - rather than being full of the developer equivalent of
> 'omfg ur killin swing u dont care about all us java devs liek woah wtf
> r u doin r u liek stoopid or sumfing?'
>
> Just throwing it out there.
>
> 2008/12/3 osbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Are you serious? wasn't only a few weeks ago you guys were trying to
>> tell us JavaFX != JavaFX Script and JavaFX was good for Swing too and
>> was going to blow us away. Are you saying any discussion about how to
>> leverage JavaFX goodies from Swing is off the table till the second
>> half of next year (if then)? So much for dispelling the myths about
>> CCD and not continuing to stonewall your existing Swing/Enterprise
>> developers with lofty indifference.
>
> >


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