I recall working with a Unix admin who you would put in the hardcore category.
Very skilled, very proud, very unforgiving of anything that wasn't Linux. Hated the stuff we ran on Java, loved the stuff we ran on PHP. Why? PHP ran on Apache, it had plain text file config files, appeared fast, could be easily monitored, started and stopped quickly, had familiar experience for adding HTTPS, logging config etc etc etc. Hated Java because it wasn't in his base distribution, ran on Glassfish/Tomcat, need a web config consoles or XML file editing, seemed complicated, ate large quantities of his systems RAM, took up lots of disk space, and froze or hung often (bad third party app). Ergo, he wasn't about to start running desktop Java apps after his experience on the server side. And I will take a stab and say the vast majority of desktop Linux users run server side Linux as well. I'd say the whole app server thing probably has a large influence on peoples opinions on the java as a RIA and java on the desktop in the Linux community. On Mar 25, 8:29 pm, "Vince O'Sullivan" <vjosulli...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 24, 12:33 am, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ... it explain a little about the mentality of > > "hackers", whom there are a great deal of in the Linux community. > > His world seems to be divided into "cool" and "uncool" and governed by > the fear of being seen to be "uncool". Hence the first priority is to > determine which camp Java falls into before even looking at it. > Unfortunately, one of the factors that make a language a failure (in > his eyes) is that it is widely used and widely understood and, > therefore, "mainstream". "Mainstream" is always deeply "uncool", so > the more people use the language then the greater a failure it is. > > It reminded me a lot of a friend of mine who was a massive fan of new > music but would drop his support for any band the moment anyone else > heard of them (because they had compromised thie integrity and gone > "mainstream"). --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
