You can join apple's free developer program to get the latest releases of Java. They recently posted a developer preview of something more recent than update 7. On May 6, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> > Summary of OP: > > I looked at it, it sucked. I won't tell you why; instead I'll just > whinge, because I'm a non-contributing zero. > > Ed, post some constructive criticism, or go away. > > NB: Michael, Gladwell is a gifted author, a real yarnspinner, but you > shouldn't quote him with the presumption that his delusional ranting > has any basis in fact, at least, not in polite company. However, in > the vein of completing the argument in a proposed faulty logic frame > being just as effective as proving the logic is false in the first > place: People who have actually used JavaFX almost never complain. If > you follow the posse, or read anything about java at all, you'd know > that the update to get is 6u10, which you didn't have. No wonder stuff > isn't working quite as well as it should; the fact that it does work > in the first place is a small miracle. > > > Joshua, do you know when apple will roll out something with the > flavour of 6u10 across all macs? My mac is still on 1.6.0_07-b06-153. > Could be because I've been downloading releases from > developer.apple.com. > > On May 6, 3:13 am, Ed <edwilson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Why is JavaFX such an extreme departure from Java? At least Flex has >> ActionScript and MXML--something that anyone reading this list can >> figure out without having to look up and strain to grok. >> >> I am trying, really trying, to get into JavaFX but I just cannot >> tolerate it's ugliness. JavaFX has to be the single most unintuitive >> language to come out since COBOL. I mean really...can you be >> serious? >> >> I know that on one of the recent podcasts the posse was in agreement >> that JavaFX was going to be the future of desktop Java but I >> respectfully disagree. There is just no possible way any sizable >> group of critical mass will ever adopt JavaFX. As with any >> technology, there will be 'pockets of users' but the whole reason we >> came over to Java from C++ was for the elegance and safety of Java. >> The write once redevelop everywhere fantasy has been painful for the >> past 15 years; Java is just now coming of age where we can actually >> write something once and get the rest for free. Why did Sun, now >> Oracle, ever let JavaFX out of the lab? >> >> JavaFX will do more harm than good for Java; the most JavaFX will do >> is make people consider Flex, and or Silverlight all that much more. >> >> What's so wrong with Swing anyway, why can't we just rev Swing and >> Java3D? >> >> I can see Groovy (or substitute your favorite JVM language Scala, >> Clojure...etc here) breaking out with an elegant/terse wrapper around >> the Swing, Java2D, Java3D primitives long...long before JavaFX ever >> gets past the demo experiment that it is. Oracle should bury JavaFX >> as fast as it can. >> >> That said the JavaFX 'rendering engine' is awesome. Just awesome. >> If >> you haven't yet tried it you are missing something truly great. >> Oracle should roll the JavaFX engine into a standard Java7 >> library. I >> think JavaFX is the right idea it just needs (come on guys) a >> realistic scripting language behind it. >> >> I know I have been hard on JavaFX, I have I hopes for the future of >> Java and I strongly believe Java needs something like JavaFX going >> forward. Great job to those who worked on JavaFX--as a developer I >> know how much work it must have taken--it was a necessary first step >> in a much needed direction. >> >> Overall I give JavaFX a 'B-' >> >> - >> ed > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
