Joshua Marinacci wrote: > You can join apple's free developer program to get the latest releases > of Java. They recently posted a developer preview of something more > recent than update 7. > _13 and it works very well
Kirk > On May 6, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > >> Summary of OP: >> >> I looked at it, it sucked. I won't tell you why; instead I'll just >> whinge, because I'm a non-contributing zero. >> >> Ed, post some constructive criticism, or go away. >> >> NB: Michael, Gladwell is a gifted author, a real yarnspinner, but you >> shouldn't quote him with the presumption that his delusional ranting >> has any basis in fact, at least, not in polite company. However, in >> the vein of completing the argument in a proposed faulty logic frame >> being just as effective as proving the logic is false in the first >> place: People who have actually used JavaFX almost never complain. If >> you follow the posse, or read anything about java at all, you'd know >> that the update to get is 6u10, which you didn't have. No wonder stuff >> isn't working quite as well as it should; the fact that it does work >> in the first place is a small miracle. >> >> >> Joshua, do you know when apple will roll out something with the >> flavour of 6u10 across all macs? My mac is still on 1.6.0_07-b06-153. >> Could be because I've been downloading releases from >> developer.apple.com. >> >> On May 6, 3:13 am, Ed <edwilson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Why is JavaFX such an extreme departure from Java? At least Flex has >>> ActionScript and MXML--something that anyone reading this list can >>> figure out without having to look up and strain to grok. >>> >>> I am trying, really trying, to get into JavaFX but I just cannot >>> tolerate it's ugliness. JavaFX has to be the single most unintuitive >>> language to come out since COBOL. I mean really...can you be >>> serious? >>> >>> I know that on one of the recent podcasts the posse was in agreement >>> that JavaFX was going to be the future of desktop Java but I >>> respectfully disagree. There is just no possible way any sizable >>> group of critical mass will ever adopt JavaFX. As with any >>> technology, there will be 'pockets of users' but the whole reason we >>> came over to Java from C++ was for the elegance and safety of Java. >>> The write once redevelop everywhere fantasy has been painful for the >>> past 15 years; Java is just now coming of age where we can actually >>> write something once and get the rest for free. Why did Sun, now >>> Oracle, ever let JavaFX out of the lab? >>> >>> JavaFX will do more harm than good for Java; the most JavaFX will do >>> is make people consider Flex, and or Silverlight all that much more. >>> >>> What's so wrong with Swing anyway, why can't we just rev Swing and >>> Java3D? >>> >>> I can see Groovy (or substitute your favorite JVM language Scala, >>> Clojure...etc here) breaking out with an elegant/terse wrapper around >>> the Swing, Java2D, Java3D primitives long...long before JavaFX ever >>> gets past the demo experiment that it is. Oracle should bury JavaFX >>> as fast as it can. >>> >>> That said the JavaFX 'rendering engine' is awesome. Just awesome. >>> If >>> you haven't yet tried it you are missing something truly great. >>> Oracle should roll the JavaFX engine into a standard Java7 >>> library. I >>> think JavaFX is the right idea it just needs (come on guys) a >>> realistic scripting language behind it. >>> >>> I know I have been hard on JavaFX, I have I hopes for the future of >>> Java and I strongly believe Java needs something like JavaFX going >>> forward. Great job to those who worked on JavaFX--as a developer I >>> know how much work it must have taken--it was a necessary first step >>> in a much needed direction. >>> >>> Overall I give JavaFX a 'B-' >>> >>> - >>> ed >>> >>> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
