I saw it in action at the JPR. We fiddled with an interface for hours and came up with things that worked. It was a learning experience, so it should be no surprise that it was a god-awful, but that's not the point. Even if we weren't learners, it would have taken a fair amount of time to code the interface.
Later in the day somebody put one together in photoshop. It took us a little time to figure out how to work with it (a one time only penalty for a given developer I'm sure), then we had it running in very short order. And it was gorgeous. So from a long-time developer's perspective, it was fan-frakkin- tastic. We got there faster, and I believe that the end result was better. A text editor is a great hammer, but there are better tools to make user interfaces with. (tangent: A couple of weeks ago I showed Matisse to somebody who was doing swing layouts with gridbag in notepad -- they were a happy camper to say the least). I still reserve the right to say that you might have to make code changes if the UI changes. It seems to me that there are plenty of tweaks that wouldn't require it, but it seems equally likely that they could change things that may break assumptions you have made about the fxd content in your code. I don't know the full power of the new (or old) project Nile bits, so maybe there are tricks to help minimize this. Thanks! On Jun 18, 3:40 pm, Joshua Marinacci <jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > have you tried the current production suite? it does this already > today. you just don't get the nice visual assembler. you can take > photoshop graphics and directly export them to fx, add some code, make > changes in photoshop, recompile and it works without any code changes. > > On Jun 18, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Bill Robertson wrote: > > > > > The Adobe plug-ins allow the designer's Photoshop and/or Illustrator > > work to be artifacts that you consume in the development process of a > > JavaFX application. So there is no translation process of what it > > looks like in photoshop to JavaFx. This can be a huge time saver, > > especially when there are multiple revisions involved. It won't read > > your mind or remove all work you have to do, but it can still be a > > huge help. > > > On Jun 18, 2:22 pm, Erlend Hamnaberg <ngar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am still a person that don't "get" JavaFX yet. > > >> Why do I want to care that you have any features in Photoshop? > >> I work with designers, and their designs are ALWAYS a guideline. > > >> No designer has the final word about what works technically anyway, > >> so why > >> do I care? > >> A usability expert might, but that is not the same as the > >> designer.... > > >> - Erlend > > >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Rob Wilson - BabyDuke JUG < > > >> netp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> So is the intention to install that for all the graphic > >>> manipulations > >>> and then export as necessary, then switch to Netbeans with the > >>> JavaFX > >>> plugin to do the coding? Will the Java FX Studio be instead of > >>> photoshop, or complementary? I'm not sure I understand what I would > >>> need to develop in JavaFX yet?! > > >>> On Jun 18, 5:48 am, Joshua Marinacci <jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> :) the product doesn't have a final name yet, so we are just > >>>> calling > >>>> it the designer tool because it's targeted at designers. > >>>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Victor Grazi wrote: > > >>>>> Ooh that name hurts my ears > > >>>>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Augusto <augusto.sellh...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> None that anybody is aware of. > > >>>>>> BTW it's not called "Java FX Studio" although that name is a bit > >>>>>> better than the generic public moniker it has right now : JavaFX > >>>>>> Authoring Tool/JavaFX Design Tool. > > >>>>>> On Jun 17, 5:01 pm, Victor Grazi <vgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> No alphas or betas? > > >>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 12:24 PM, "wojciech.halicki.piszko" > >>>>>>> <wojciech.halicki.pis...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> If you are talking about JavaFX design tool showed on stage > >>>>>>>> at Java > >>>>>>>> One then it will be available by the end of year. Hopefully. > > >>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 9:01 am, Victor Grazi <vgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hello, is there any way to download a beta of Java FX studio? > >>>>>>>>> Much > >>>>>>>>> thanks, > >>>>>>>>> Victor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
