> Well, this is partially right, partially nonsense. :-) I like Cyberduck
> a lot, and it's really well done. But it doesn't make me willing to use
> Mac OS X more than other factors - indeed, it's likely that I'll drop
> Cyberduck sooner or later, as I strive to use _exclusively_ portable
> applications. It's easy to say that portability is useless if you don't
> have to use multiple o.ses. For me it's important, and much more
> important of the cool factor. I understand that Cyberduck author made a
> specific choice to go only with Mac OS X, clearly works for them and for
> Mac OS X users. Not for me.

I use both OS X and Linux; in terms of hours-per-day, Linux slightly
more than OS X. I care about portability where it matters to me. jEdit
is one of the first installs on any new OS of mine. And IntelliJ does
a great job on both platforms.

If portability is your main goal, then go to it; I can't criticize
that. My argument is that as a community, we should praise desktop
Java apps which are simply great apps compared to their competition,
even if they only run on one OS, assuming portability is _not_ our
only concern. Praising, and calling out, apps that are written in
Java, merely because they are portable, regardless of whether we judge
them or their UI to be usable, beautiful, etc. (now) seems wrong to
me.

At the end of the day, the question is, "Is this an app I really enjoy
using? Does it help me get the job done?" I'm glad that both IntelliJ
and jEdit are portable, for example, and that they are great power
tools--even if jEdit doesn't have a really polished UI. But by
comparison, I've tried a number of Twitter clients, and at the end of
the day, I use Nambu on the Mac and TwitterFox (within Firefox) on
Linux, because I haven't found a portable Twitter client that I liked
to use, and won't use one that I _don't_ like to use just to "support
the Java dream".

Personally, I find that OS X sets a high bar for app usability and
good visual design, and IMO, Cyberduck meets those high standards. We
should expect no less of any apps we recommend and promote.

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