Unless you are writing hello world for living then I believe for most project complexity are in the business logic. If framework stands on your way, you should replace it.
Language is not a magic wand. I can write shitty code regardless where I write it and what language I write it in. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:22 PM, MassH <massimohei...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1. > > Clearly, the complexity in real life Java projects is in the libraries/ > frameworks/APIs. > > No one has a hard time writing a for loop or inheriting a class in > Java. > > I've never gotten frustrated writing new code (be it C, Java, C#, > Python, Perl, x86, etc). It's always, why is some library or framework > throwing some cryptic error, or behaving erratically for no apparent > reason, or not building or configuring correctly. > > Also, "Java" covers a huge range of different types of software work. > For some use cases, there are Java-centric tool stacks that are > fantastic and for others there are superior alternatives that don't > use Java. It's not reasonable to lump them all together. > > On Jul 28, 10:31 am, "phil.swen...@gmail.com" <phil.swen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Complex? Actually Java is a pretty simple language. Ruby/Python/ > > Scala/Groovy all have many more features and richer syntax than Java. > > > > The APIs are overly complex. And these APIs set a precedent for > > creating over-engineered super abstract solutions which unfortunately > > most people followed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
