Perfectly said Matthew..Explains my point of view better..Kevin my friend, I
hope you listen..

Just FYI..I got into Oxford last year for a Phd and couldnt persue due to
funding issues..:(..

I like UK too but let us talk science here - specifically the NEWS FROM
ORACLE stuff..

Thanks,
jd

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Matthew M <meye...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, the US is far from the top per capita. Though if you look at only
> hard sciences laureates for the past 60 years alone the US will slide
> up the list a bit. (Who cares about peace and literature anyway [sic])
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country_per_capita
>
> I think that the point of the claim was that the US has a great
> tradition of corporate R&D for the public good. Sun was certainly
> among the representatives of that group. Oracle is now making it clear
> that Sun inventions are not for the public good at all, but for its
> profit alone (i.e. license it or destroy it).
>
> On Aug 18, 3:11 pm, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Based on this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country
> >
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country>I can
> see
> > that the UK has 117 laureates, and the US has 320 laureates
> > Giving the US roughly 2.7 times as many laureates as the UK
> >
> > Furthermore, from here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population
> >
> > I can see that the size of the UK population is 62,041,708 and for the US
> > is 310,020,000
> > Giving the US a population roughly 5 times as large as the UK
> >
> > Or calculated as laureates per capita
> > UK: 117/62041708 = 1.89*10^-6
> > US: 320/310020000 = 1.03*10^-6
> >
> > So there's a higher percentage of Nobel laureates from the UK than from
> the
> > US.
> > Please check you facts before posting such claims, and cite your sources
> if
> > possible.
> > I haven't yet done the laureates per-capita for other countries, but I'm
> > sure the results would be fascinating
> >
> > On 18 August 2010 22:55, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > B) IS CORRECT..THANKS..
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Kevin Wright <
> kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >> Do you mean: a) Of all Nobel laureates, the most commonly occurring
> > >> nationality is USA
> > >> Or that: b) the proportion of USA citizens holding a Nobel laureate is
> > >> higher than the proportion of nationals of any other country
> >
> > >> Because a) is a useless statement, it hasn't normalised against the
> > >> relative population sizes of countries participating in the Nobel
> prize
> > >> awards...
> >
> > >> On 18 August 2010 21:11, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> 1)Ya i KNow..Those were two separate statements.Sorry I was not clear
> in
> > >>> my writing..
> >
> > >>> 2) Do you know that maximum % of the nobel laureates are from USA?
> >
> > >>> Hope that clarifies the reply..Thanks for your reply..I didnt know
> about
> > >>> his research part though.Thanks..
> >
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> JD
> >
> > >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Russel Winder <rus...@russel.org.uk
> >wrote:
> >
> > >>>> On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 01:11 +0530, jitesh dundas wrote:
> > >>>> [ . . . ]
> > >>>> > USA has produced some really good scientists in the past ..Tim
> Berners
> > >>>> > Lee is like God to me..
> >
> > >>>> He is from the UK.
> >
> > >>>> Research done that made him famous done in Switzerland.
> >
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