Perfectly said Matthew..Explains my point of view better..Kevin my friend, I hope you listen..
Just FYI..I got into Oxford last year for a Phd and couldnt persue due to funding issues..:(.. I like UK too but let us talk science here - specifically the NEWS FROM ORACLE stuff.. Thanks, jd On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Matthew M <meye...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, the US is far from the top per capita. Though if you look at only > hard sciences laureates for the past 60 years alone the US will slide > up the list a bit. (Who cares about peace and literature anyway [sic]) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country_per_capita > > I think that the point of the claim was that the US has a great > tradition of corporate R&D for the public good. Sun was certainly > among the representatives of that group. Oracle is now making it clear > that Sun inventions are not for the public good at all, but for its > profit alone (i.e. license it or destroy it). > > On Aug 18, 3:11 pm, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Based on this: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country>I can > see > > that the UK has 117 laureates, and the US has 320 laureates > > Giving the US roughly 2.7 times as many laureates as the UK > > > > Furthermore, from here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population > > > > I can see that the size of the UK population is 62,041,708 and for the US > > is 310,020,000 > > Giving the US a population roughly 5 times as large as the UK > > > > Or calculated as laureates per capita > > UK: 117/62041708 = 1.89*10^-6 > > US: 320/310020000 = 1.03*10^-6 > > > > So there's a higher percentage of Nobel laureates from the UK than from > the > > US. > > Please check you facts before posting such claims, and cite your sources > if > > possible. > > I haven't yet done the laureates per-capita for other countries, but I'm > > sure the results would be fascinating > > > > On 18 August 2010 22:55, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > B) IS CORRECT..THANKS.. > > > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Kevin Wright < > kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > >> Do you mean: a) Of all Nobel laureates, the most commonly occurring > > >> nationality is USA > > >> Or that: b) the proportion of USA citizens holding a Nobel laureate is > > >> higher than the proportion of nationals of any other country > > > > >> Because a) is a useless statement, it hasn't normalised against the > > >> relative population sizes of countries participating in the Nobel > prize > > >> awards... > > > > >> On 18 August 2010 21:11, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >>> 1)Ya i KNow..Those were two separate statements.Sorry I was not clear > in > > >>> my writing.. > > > > >>> 2) Do you know that maximum % of the nobel laureates are from USA? > > > > >>> Hope that clarifies the reply..Thanks for your reply..I didnt know > about > > >>> his research part though.Thanks.. > > > > >>> Regards, > > >>> JD > > > > >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Russel Winder <rus...@russel.org.uk > >wrote: > > > > >>>> On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 01:11 +0530, jitesh dundas wrote: > > >>>> [ . . . ] > > >>>> > USA has produced some really good scientists in the past ..Tim > Berners > > >>>> > Lee is like God to me.. > > > > >>>> He is from the UK. > > > > >>>> Research done that made him famous done in Switzerland. > > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Russel. > > > > >>>> > =========================================================================== > == > > >>>> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: > > >>>> sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net <sip%3arussel.win...@ekiga.net> < > sip%3arussel.win...@ekiga.net <sip%253arussel.win...@ekiga.net>> > > >>>> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: > rus...@russel.org.uk > > >>>> London SW11 1EN, UK w:www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > > > > >>> -- > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > > >>> To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>> javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > >>> . > > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > >> -- > > >> Kevin Wright > > > > >> mail/google talk: kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com > > >> wave: kev.lee.wri...@googlewave.com > > >> skype: kev.lee.wright > > >> twitter: @thecoda > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "The Java Posse" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Kevin Wright > > > > mail/google talk: kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com > > wave: kev.lee.wri...@googlewave.com > > skype: kev.lee.wright > > twitter: @thecoda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.