On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot <reini...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also, if you think someone who drops $2000 on a notebook is going to
> be satisfied with iOS, you're delusional. If you think Apple is going
> to drop their mac platform, which, if they spun it off as separate
> company, would be somewhere in the 100-150 range of top 500 companies
> all by itself... you're delusional.

110 according to the Apple Keynote.  Macs are a $22 Billion revenue
generator according to the keynote as well.
>
> If we're going to scream bloody murder about apple, let's keep the
> focus on the sharecropping bullpuckey they are going to extend with
> this new appstore. You know the drill: If apple doesn't like your app,
> you can't sell it, and you have no recourse of any kind other than to
> try and get the tech world riled up. That's a crappy model for
> developers. That's worth whining about.

Your recourse would be to sell mac apps directly rather than the app
store, this is allowed on the Mac app store model.  This is how I
think the iPhone should work too.  It's ridiculous that the app store
is the only distribution method.

> On Oct 28, 7:28 am, "kevin.hooke" <kevin.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But Apple already has a big iPhone, it's the iPad. Maybe a big iPod
>> Touch would be a more appropriate comparison.
>>
>> There's only so many snippets of information that Apple has discussed
>> so of course we're all drawing conclusions from the little we know,
>> presumably because we're all interested to see where this is heading
>> because we are either Java developers, Apple users, or both.
>>
>> As someone in the 'both' category, I won't buy an iPhone because I
>> can't develop and run Java apps on it - the clear choice for me for a
>> phone platform right now is Android. Of course this isn't a typical
>> reason for a 'normal' consumer who would buy a product for other
>> reasons (price, features, ease of use) rather than the technology the
>> product uses. That said, I love my MacBook Pro.
>>
>> The news that Apple will not continue to develop Java for the Mac is
>> making me consider why I should continue to use a Mac in the future.
>> The news that an App Store is coming to the Mac, the fact that it will
>> only deliver native OS X apps presumably controlled by Apple in the
>> same way as the iPhone App Store, that iOS features to be included in
>> Mac OS X Lion and that Apple will not continue development of Java for
>> the Mac is just sounding too much to me like 'Apple is going to turn
>> the Mac into a big iPhone'. And who can say, maybe this is indeed
>> Apple's long term plan.
>>
>> At the end of the day someone will develop and supply Java for the
>> Mac, so in reality maybe we're all worrying about nothing :-)
>>
>> Here's a random (and possibly crazy) thought. Apple has done a better
>> job than most other electronics companies of turning computer
>> technology into consumer devices, and they continue to move in this
>> direction pushing the iPad as a device for 'everyone' to consume
>> media. When you think about it, it's incredibly ineffective that we
>> continue to interact with computers via a QWERTY keyboard, which was
>> originally designed to place infrequently combined keys adjacent to
>> each other so the keys didn't get jammed on your typewriter. The iPad
>> really is an amazing step to move away from this 'old' input approach.
>> Ok, so it still has an onscreen keyboard, but it does away with a
>> physical keyboard and for that matter the mouse too. Who's to say that
>> Apple's long term strategy is to move away from general purpose
>> computers, and move entirely in the direction of devices to consume
>> content like the iPad? If this is true then the statement 'Apple is
>> going to turn the Mac into a big iPhone' sums up this direction very
>> appropriately :-)
>>
>> On Oct 22, 11:53 am, CKoerner <chessm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> > I bet you main computer isn't even a Mac. I'm not wasting my time
>> > discussing such a misguided view as "Apple is going to turn the Mac
>> > into a big iphone". Enjoy your mat and your tinfoil had, I have better
>> > things to do.
>
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