I realize exactly what I said in this thread and my frustration is clear. I don't care how you wish to dress up the differences in the two roles or your apparent need for a pure technical justification. IMHO he has done himself no favors if he really wants to further his influence in Java by snubbing this opportunity. This is as much political as it is technical, but if you have a seat at the table, or even a table, you have some say.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Weiqi Gao <weiqi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/06/2010 04:38 AM, Liam Knox wrote: > >> From my point of view its not a character assassination. I am just >> very curious for the polarized views and as mentioned I cannot ignore >> that the 2 blogs can be or should be taken as distinct. >> > > You may have not realized it when you said it in this thread, but things > like: > > "I do not rate the guy." > > "Guice is no fork-join. Bob is no Doug" > > "So what the hell is this all about then?" > > "Sour grapes. Simple as that." > > "If you do not see any hint of sour grapes in that you must be completely > blind." > > are not legitimate technical arguments, IMHO. > > I would say if you really care about the language then contribute in the >> JSR space if given the opportunity. >> > > You seems to imply that "the language" and "the JSR space" are one and the > same thing. > > Even if you rephrase the above sentence as > > If you really care about the JSR space then contribute in the JSR space if > given the opportunity > > it does not capture the temporal variation of people's attitudes. A person > should be allowed to "care" at time t[0] (before the JCP SE/EE EC election) > but "not to care" at a subsequent time t[1] (after the election.) > > If you have problems with how that >> works you will have a better chance of changing things by being involved >> in it than by not. >> > > This is true only if the situation is still salvageable. When all hope is > gone, a person should be allowed to give up. > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Miroslav Pokorny >> <miroslav.poko...@gmail.com <mailto:miroslav.poko...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I did not say anything against Bob, its abouot being fair, you cant >> automatically assume Oracle = bad. For me it just seems strange to >> join something you dont believe in, especially after they dont let >> you in. If it sounds like im saying something personal then i >> personally apologize. >> > > -- > Weiqi Gao > weiqi...@gmail.com > http://www.weiqigao.com/blog/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
