On one of Gavin's slides he says:

"Java is joined at the hip with XML, and this hurts almost every Java
developer almost every day"

Really? In what way is Java joined at the hip with XML? Just because
some people use Ant and some people using XML for Spring
configuration? I don't see how this is related to Java the language.
Does it really hurt most Java developers most days? I really doubt
that. I think most Java developers go days on end without seeing any
XML.

There are many valid reasons to dislike Java, but XML is not one of them.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Serge Boulay <serge.bou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another language in the works. Let the Scala vs "Ceylon project" wars begin.
>
> http://devstonez.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/introducing-the-ceylon-project-gavin-king-presentation-at-qcon-beijing-2011/
> http://blog.talawah.net/2011/04/gavin-king-unviels-red-hats-top-secret.html

-- 
R. Mark Volkmann
Object Computing, Inc.

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