Ok this is getting a bit silly, but to me, boiler plate is something that
the compiler could infer without my help.

ArrayList a = new ArrayList();

The first ArrayList is boiler plate.

var a = new ArrayList();

ArrayList is not boiler plate here, and you'll need it in dynamically typed
languages as well. Except for languages that can read your mind, obviously.

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Cédric




On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
> > But as soon as a statically typed language supports type inference, I'm
> > really not convinced that it has more boiler plate than a dynamically
> typed
> > language (obviously, type annotations don't count as "boiler plate",
> we're
> > talking about things such as "List l = new ArrayList()").
>
> Type annotations certainly count. Hell, anything that is "just a
> standard part of a program and has to be present" counts.   As an
> example, setting up the tables and such in squeryl is something I feel
> safe calling boilerplate.  ActiveRecord showed many in the world that
> you could have done that through reflection on a table.
>
> Are there advantages to having that boilerplate?  Of course there are.
>  Doesn't mean it isn't boilerplate.   (That is, you can't eliminate
> all boilerplate, by nature of the definition of boilerplate.  It isn't
> that java has any boilerplate that annoys so many, it is that it has
> so much boilerplate.)
>
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