On Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:23:07 PM UTC-5, rcasto wrote: > > I was just saying that it was the reason I heard all the time. I really > think it has to do with management style. Newer and more progressive > companies are more flexible in this regard. Older companies tend to stick > with tradition or see working at home as a benefit. There are places where > security is a big deal and it is important to recognize that. In those > situations there is no possibility of working from home. >
This is bullshit. I recently consulted for [huge bank that's too big to fail], they were as much neurotic about security as usual in financial services (btw first company I worked for that required a drug test as part of the background check...), still they had fantastic support for remote work. Not that my manager would allow people to work from home without a "good reason" like a doc appointment mid-day - in his words that I still remember, "telecommuting is a privilege, not a right, especially for consultants". Said manager was a control freak, but that's not a rare thing. Some overtime is difficult to avoid in software projects, but I would never consider working for a company that demands it as a rule - if the regular hours are 10h/day, then just put 10h/day in my contract... - or for a company that demands ANY amount of on-site overtime. You ask me to stay working late or in weekends, I'm doing a favor to you; a HUGE favor if not paid extra. So at the very least let me do that on my pajamas. A+ Osvaldo > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2006 at 7:40 AM, Ricky Clarkson <ricky.c...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> ** >> My current client has the same restriction on consultants, though I can >> take the code home on the laptop they provided. I don't think it's always >> about security, but often about the battle between employees and >> contractors. >> >> In the original context I thought we were talking about employment rather >> than consulting though. >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Robert Casto <casto....@gmail.com> >> *Sender: * java...@googlegroups.com >> *Date: *Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:29:40 -0500 >> *To: *<java...@googlegroups.com> >> *ReplyTo: * java...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject: *Re: [The Java Posse] overtime and job hunt >> >> Very nice. I'll have to keep that one in mind. Most of the time the >> excuse I hear has to do with security and that they can't have consultants >> working off site accessing the servers and code and what not. >> >> 2011/11/23 Cédric Beust ♔ <ced...@beust.com> >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Ricky Clarkson <ricky.c...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> "Do you provide VPN access for when someone needs to do some work out >>>> of hours?" would be a good opening question on that. >>>> >>> >>> This is indeed the best way to ask the question. It hints that you might >>> be working overtime or outside business hours while you may be discreetly >>> enquiring about working remotely during the day. Very crafty :-) >>> >>> -- >>> Cédric >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to java...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> javaposse+...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Casto >> www.robertcasto.com >> www.sellerstoolbox.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to java...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> javaposse+...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to java...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> javaposse+...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Robert Casto > www.robertcasto.com > www.sellerstoolbox.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse/-/Wlggi3LaKDMJ. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
