On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:46:05 PM UTC+2, phil swenson wrote: > > I remember being very disappointed when I first looked at Java for > writing desktop UIs. It was a huge step backwards from all the > lessons learned from Delphi and VB in the 90s. No properties, no > events, layout hell, overly complicated APIs. >
And yet, the hardcore Java developer will defend it vigorously. It's like the engineers at Sun didn't even look at what others had done. > Sun spearheaded the NIH virus. > It's 2012 and it's still much faster and easier to write a client in > Delphi circa 1997 than Java Swing. I can't comment on JavaFX of course, never looked at it. > They've got one idea right; declarative expression tree modelling (top-down rather than bottom-up). However, I believe it's limited to the UI and that quicky made JavaFX utterly useless and a waste of time for me. Fantom and Ceylon are examples of the same line of though, taken a bit further into general purpose. It seems pretty obvious to me that we are going to need strong hierarchical modelling constructs, most everything we do revolve around trees. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse/-/V8pxQIVN3J8J. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.