I missed some users I know of.. Ricoh's InfoPrint Manager, just one of whose clients is responsible for >5% of all mail in the US, has a Swing UI for administration. There's no great advantage to it being in Swing for the user, and there is a web version but it lacks features. On Oct 20, 2012 7:00 AM, "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:44:27 +0200, Casper Bang <[email protected]> > wrote: > > According to statowl.com, 66% of computers have a JVM installed. Let's >> say >> that 50% of those are actually being used, not just dormant/idle installs >> there due to OS bundling or shoehorning. Last but not least, let's assume >> that 10% are there to truly power a desktop application, not just to >> support mandatory national SSO solutions etc. That lands us down around >> 3%. >> > > The "scientific approach" would be your *assumption* of 10%, right? :-) > Why not 15%? Or 5%? Or 20%? Which is the scientific calculus that leads to > this value? 3% might reasonably qualify as nobody, but if the number is 10% > or more, it wouldn't. > > My agenda is not to uplift Java on the desktop, which, outside of the > industry, I agree is a minority usage (*); the relevant technology for the > masses is HTML. I'd just like to have people to back their assertions with > some solid argument, but it seems that there's no alternative to vagueness > and personal assumptions. > > On the other hand, I can't make numbers too. Of course, lawyers and other > professionals could be less than 3% and your number can't be proved false > by them. Still, if you completely drop Java from the desktop it seems that > we have a few whole segments of people (outside the industry) that can't do > a relevant part of their jobs. > > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. > "We make Java work. Everywhere." > http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/**blog <http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog> - > [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com <javaposse%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/javaposse?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en>. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
