Hello Steve,

I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything, even if I don't download anything. Once it picked up a file as temp files and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. I'm on windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else. I've used Trend Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its engine through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. MSE does my whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else out there besides MSE that would be more reliable. I haven't made any changes yet, someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not sure. Its sad that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web habits, have read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, but with the threats today, something is always needed and was looking for something that would be a bit better than my experience lately with MSE. Thanks for your thoughts.

On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote:
Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email attachments or links.

I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender.

Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>
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I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect.

-----Original Message----- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
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OK,

I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended
to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws?

On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/
I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=70130000001xLlGAAU&utm_source=adwords&utm_mediu m=cpc&utm_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search&utm_content=search&utm_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the
UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for
home, so you should try them.

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regards
Thomas N. Chan

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I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do
you have a link?

On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:

Hello,

I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.

In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS
and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use
the tab to go from option to option.

I wish you success.

Aran

-----Original Message----- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of
the page says:

The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to
use the EICAR test file.

The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and
Computer Antivirus Research Organization.

To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a
blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"

The URL to the full post is at:

https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki
ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending to
keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it
worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below.  A bit
concerning.



I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.

I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my
drives.  I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I
found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file
I had up.  MSE never picked it up.  Now that I'm a Jaws user, what
antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?

I've got Windows 7, 64 bit.  I don't think MSE is doing the trick
anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got
flagged for review.  It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i
knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is
working and picks them up.



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