Forgive me, Takis, but by "crushing," do you mean "crashing"? Now that I write that, it's obvious. I wish I'd figured it out before. But it helps me understand the problem you're experiencing. Everything else is completely clear. I wish I had one-hundredth the fluency in Greek that you have in English and, judging by your field of expertise, several other languages.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 8:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] difficulty in working with footnotes in word 2007 Hi Adrian/all, Oh dear, a mistype for "is crushing." I may have just been thinking away and done it mechanically. Have a good Sunday, Takis -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] difficulty in working with footnotes in word 2007 Hi, Takis. Could you explain your phrase, "JAWS in crushing"? I think I've noticed it in two of your messages, but I'm afraid I don't understand it. Clarification might help here and in the future. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 2:24 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] difficulty in working with footnotes in word 2007 Hi Adrian-all, Thank you very much for welcoming me to the list, and even more, for your very intuitive suggestions, which I will try later, and report back. The problem is that when I want to insert a footnote, contrl'alt'f, jaws in crushing, and I really donàt know if this is something that happens to me, or itàs a known bug-something. I even related it to the problem I have with Handytechàs software related to file transferring and using a very useful item on my display, ATC cursor, by which the Braille display scrolls automatically to the next 40 characters, once it perceives your finger to be at the end. Ever since upgrading to win10, if jaws is working, the htcom software is not working, and I have to ask sighted colleagues or my brother do file transfers for me, as the software is proprietary. My tech specialist, who represents both FS and Handytech here in Greece, has contacted the latter several times, and from what he tells, it appears that I am one of some 10 computer users in the whole planet that I have this, with no solution being advanced. I did not mean to take this issue to our group, since I feel itàs more to do with handytech, however, as the two issues might be related with regard to jaws crushing, I brought this forward too. Anyway, I shall let you know. K indest Regards from Euboea, Takis -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 6:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] difficulty in working with footnotes in word 2007 Hi, Takis, and let me join in welcoming you to the list. I'm not sure these three ideas will help, and they won't solve all the problems you're experiencing, but I don't find them in either your query or Steve's suggestion. I can't be sure which, if any, will apply to Word 2007, but I think they do. To read a footnote, place focus at that footnote and press shift-alt-e. To exit a footnote and return to text, press the pass-through key combo (JAWS key+3 on the number row above the letters), then shift-alt-c. To review footnotes already inserted into a document, press Insert+Z to turn quick keys on. Then press o to move through the footnotes document. By the way, be sure to check the options in the JAWS key+v JAWS quick settings. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] difficulty in working with footnotes in word 2007 Greetings to all, I face a lot of dicciulty recently, when I work on a document, (writing it or reading it in Braille) when I want to insert a footnote. Using Windows 10 creator, Jaws 18, Word 2007 and an Active Braille display. In the past I was able to create a footnote by using contrl-alt-f. The note would appear and I could type my text viewing it. When I was done, by arroing once to the right, I was able to go back to my document, see the note's number and continue typing my document. When reading notes, I always used to hit a cursor routing button just above the number, and a sort of preview would and still appears, which permitted me to read most of the notes, but if these were too long, I could use alt-v, f and land on that note which I could read in its entirety. By toggling the same command, I was back on my reading document. This is no longer feasible. I have jaws set to read the entire note, which it does orally, but I really want to follow it in Braille, since these include a lot of bibliographical data in various languages, (I have installed six vocaliser voices), and Mr. jaws does not always get the language right. I mentioned this problem of mine to another list I participate, and a fellow member sent a reply, which unfortunately, did not work, and which I will paste at the end of this message. Now, I must say that when I type alt-contrl-f to get to a footnote, jaws is crushing which means I can only type blindly, as no Braille appears either, and I have to restore it with the known shortcut alt-f-j. It lands on jaws menus and by escape I am back on desktop and I need to alt-tab to get to the note. At that time I can see the note's text with highlighting, but arrowing to the right will not automatically do something, unless I do a contr-home for the beginning of document, and a contrl-end to get back to where I was, in which case it may eventually work. I am pasting the kind reply I got which proved vain, so, if anyone has had a similar problem or knows for a better solution, I would be most grateful to hear from you. K indest Regards, Takis Hi Takis, I've got Word 2016 and Windows 7 so I don't know if the following will help at all, but it gives you some things you can try! The way footnotes appear depend on which view I use. In Print view I can press Alt + Ctrl + F to start a footnote. From within the footnote, I can press the applications key or Shift + F10 and choose Go To Footnote to return to the document text. The footnote pane appears at the bottom of each page, and JAWS indicates this when I read with DownArrow or Say All, although in neither case does it actually read the footnotes unless I navigate by word while focus is in the footnote pane. In Draft view I press Alt + Ctrl + F to start a footnote, as before, but then I use F6 to return to the document text. Once there is at least one footnote, I can press Shift + F6 to move to the footnote pane at any time, and F6 to return to the document. JAWS should announce which view is in effect. I can press Alt + Ctrl + P to force print view, and Alt + Ctrl + N to force Draft view, which used to be called Normal view. Does that get you any further? 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