Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you 
posted it, it was right at the time, and probably what you say here explains 
it. Regardless, Gerald and you posted excellent instructions on how to rid 
yourself of the virtual ribbon once and for all. 
Laura is seeing just how strong opinions can be on this list with Jim's new 
posts. I think he's wrong to say the virtual ribbon makes life easier because 
shortcuts and first-letter navigation don't work with it. Besides, whenever 
possible, I would much rather use the options available to everyone and be part 
of the whole wide world. 

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Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 AM
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Adrian,

I was curious about that. However I launched Word and then tried the keystroke. 
It said "collapsed" and then when pressed again, said "expanded". 
In either case, the virtual ribbon did not appear. Since I have mine disabled 
in the settings center, this might have an effect. Perhaps this 
Ctrl+F1 keystroke is meaningful if the virtual ribbon is enabled?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......


Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say. 
I've never done it.

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Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent 
on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't 
use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to 
buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......


Hello,



When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to 
learn how to navigate these ribbons.



Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more 
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off?  I want and need to 
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly 
appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Laura









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