Hi Greg,

It's nice to have an option to download a CSV instead of a PDF. CSV files are 
actually plain text but optimized to be managed with spreadsheet programs like 
Microsoft Excel, so they're accessible and very convenient.




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On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:06 PM -0300, "Greg Washington" 
<gregw...@comcast.net> wrote:










Fernando,
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my issues.  Unfortunately 
nothing anyone has suggested so far seems to work.  Chase used to let you 
download their statements in a csv format which I could read with jaws win no 
problem.
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 11:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a PDF document

Hi Greg,

When you early said that the hotkeys I mentioned didn't work for you, I thought 
that you were viewing the document directly in the web browser. However, now 
that you say that the document is saved in Downloads, you may be opening the 
document with other program instead of Adobe's one by default.
If you're sure to be using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC or Adobe Reader, perhaps the 
document was configured to display pages in a special way. In this case, in the 
View menu, find a sub menu related to pages view (not page navigation) and 
select Single Page View. I can't give you the exact sub menu name because I use 
Adobe Acrobat Reader DC in Spanish and, unlike Microsoft, Adobe hasn't a 
repository in which to find exact string equivalences and, although there's an 
option in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC preferences to change UI language, it seem 
that language packs are only available for enterprises or some kind of 
subscription.
Regarding search in a PDF document, it is done in the way Adrian explained. 
However, since Adobe's products by default do not render the whole documents to 
screen readers to avoid excessive RAM and CPU usage, for this to work in the 
whole document, you first have to press CTRL+SHIFT+5 and, in the dialog which 
opens, tab to the group of radio buttons and select to read the entire 
document. When okaying this dialog, the document will start to prepare; when 
finished, the JAWS search feature will work for the whole document as if this 
would be a web page.
Finally, in the Reading preferences category Brian indicated, you can change, 
Ammon others, the options which appear in the CTRL+SHIFT+5 dialog, but 
permanently for all documents. Unless you understand what you're doing, I 
would'nt recommend to change options here. I personally like to render 
documents one page at a time even when they're not big (by default documents 
with less than 50 pages are rendered entirely, and with 50 or more one page at 
a time; you can change the limit for this consideration as big or small, or 
turn this calculation completely off) and with single page view despite the one 
set in each document.

Hope it helps somewhat.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 7:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a PDF document

The file is saved in downloads and I can still not get past the first page.  My 
wife who is sighted says there are plus and minus signs at the top of the 
document that she can click on with the mouse and go from page to page in the 
document.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Scorpio
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 5:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a PDF document

If you're opening it in the internet temp folder, then I don't think it'll read 
past that, I think it's a security issue.

Try saving the PDF document to your hard drive, into your downloads folder, and 
open the PDF from there.

This should fix it I think, especially if my assessment is what I think it is.

Scorpio

-----Original Message-----
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

Using the Jaws search: Insert, control, F, has always worked for me in a PDF 
document.  It searches the entire document as far as  I can tell. Tom 
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

Adrian,
Thanks but unfortunately searching for text still does not go pass the first 
page of the document.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 7:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

Greg,

I'm sure you're right. To the extent I understand anything about PDF files, 
they need to be properly tagged. What I do in order to get the information I 
need from untagged financial statements is to figure out what exactly that is. 
Typically, it's the amount due and the list of transactions, if any. I go 
directly to the amount due by searching for the $ dollar sign.

If I want to read the transactions, I search for a portion of a date. For 
example, if the statement has a closing date in mid-September, I'll search for 
the two characters 9/ Since the most recent, and therefore top, transaction 
probably occurred in September. Naturally if 9/ doesn't work, I substitute 8/.

Note. To search in a PDF document, press JAWS key+control+f.

I realize this is a workaround, but perhaps it's helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

Fernando,
Thanks so much for responding.  Unfortunately neither Control+page down or
control+shift+n works on the document I am trying to read.  Perhaps it’s 
control+shift+the
way the document was created that is causing the problem.  The document is a 
monthly statement downloaded from my credit card web site.  Iam using adobe 
acrobat reader DC.
Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 12:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

Hi Greg,

To go to the next or prior page, press CTRL+PAGE DOWN or CTRL+PAGE UP. To enter 
a specific page number, press CTRL+SHIFT+N, type the number and press ENTER.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing pages in a pdf document

I downloaded a 4 page pdf document and cannot figure out how to change the 
pages so I can read pages 2,3 and 4.  Step by step instructions would be 
greatly appreciated.  I am using latest Jaws 18 on a Windows 10 computer.

Greg



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