Well I live in the United States, and this domain name is registered here 
also. There for my previous message stands. I think that is enough on this 
particular topic of conversation.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <li...@zufelt.ca>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup


Good morning,

Depending on which country or jurisdiction you are in it is perfectly
legal to reverse engineer an application for personal or educational
purposes.

But, editing the binary file that contains that message will at the
best allow you to change the static message, not replace it with a
dynamically generated one.

HTH,
Everett


On 3-Feb-09, at 8:32 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

> The fact is discussing how to de-compile or crack an executable file
> is
> illegal and as such not permitted on any list at all under this
> domain name.
> I do agree with you Kate but my previous statement stands for
> anybody who
> might ever consider posting such information on here. Such people
> will be
> removed from this list and also banned from ever returning.
> David Ferrin
> ow...@jaws-users.com
> Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
>
>
>
> Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a
> person
> is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the
> warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to
> them to
> proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file
> unusable,
> could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to
> me, this
> seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn
> from one
> another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and
> then
> saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds
> elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about
> someone
> being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then
> just don't
> bring it up in the first place.
>
> It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information
> another
> person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get
> responces
> like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our
> abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each
> other
> here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of
> comfort
> with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult
> enough to
> know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try.
>
> This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree
> and
> that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents.
>
>> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> From: z200...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
>>
>> you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex
>> editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look
>> for to remove it.
>> Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come
>> unusable.
>> At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
>>> Aha!  Unfortunately no.  That startup message is hard wired into the
>>> coding
>>> of Jaws.  I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove
>>> that
>>> start up message.
>>> Jack
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rissal" <rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au>
>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
>>>
>>>
>>> can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready
>>> and
>>> put
>>> that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers
>>>
>>> skype: mr.riss
>>>
>>> msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jack" <jlow...@neo.rr.com>
>>> To: "JAWS Users Group" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>> A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my
>>>> Jaws
>>>> startup.  I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10.
>>>> I'll
>>>> post
>>>> them below.  Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be
>>>> made
>>>> to
>>>> make these scripts work with Jaws 10.  I'm just starting to learn
>>>> scripting
>>>> and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them
>>>> work
>>>> with
>>>> Jaws 10.  Any input would be appreciated.
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at
>>>> startup,
>>>> do
>>>> the
>>>> following.
>>>> 1. press Insert+0.
>>>> 2. Press ctrl+shift+D.
>>>> 3. press ctrl+L
>>>> 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event.
>>>> 5. press enter
>>>> 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines
>>>>
>>>> endIf
>>>> endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0
>>>>
>>>> 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line.  You do
>>>> this
>>>> by
>>>> putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter.  Now
>>>> arrow
>>>> up
>>>> once to the blank line you just made.
>>>> Now, paste in the following text.  Remember to personalize the user
>>>> name.
>>>>
>>>> SayString("Hello user name, Today is")
>>>> Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string)
>>>> Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string)
>>>> SayString("Have a good day!")
>>>>
>>>> ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want.
>>>> "Have
>>>> a
>>>> good day" is just an example.**
>>>> 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts.
>>>> 9. You can now hit alt-F4 to close the scripts.
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>>>
>>> Send instant messages to your online friends
>>> http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
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