You are welcome, you are not the only one that these machines confuse! Richard Q. Justice-website owner www.blind-computing.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DATA BACKUP AND RESTORE
Thanks for your explanation. It does clear up some of my confusion. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DATA BACKUP AND RESTORE > Hi Gerald, > Yes, you, are missing something. > The tutorials on creating a system restore disk, or disks, and using them > to > restore your system > explain clearly how to do it, without sighted help. > The fact that a particular program doesn't fit the desires of every > individual, > doesn't make it impossible to use, or useless. > There are a few terms being used here that are not inter-changeable. > Backup, typically refers to your personal files such as data, music and > videos for example. > These backups are recommended by many computer professionals to be done > before any significant changes are made to your system. > System Restore, is nothing more than a way of returning your system to a > previous state, such as the Windows System Restore. > Creating a system restore disk, or disks, canbe easily done with Jaws, as > the tutorialls on Image for Windows demonstrates. > The advantage of using disks for this restore is that it doesn't consume > space on your hard drive the way that Windows System Restore does. > System Recovery, is typically used when the hard drive has crashed, and > the > physical drive has to be replaced. > In this case, there would need to be a boot disk,and there are programs > that > will allow a blind-user to create one > and they are also Jaws-friendly. > Yes, some of these processes are quite technical, and not for the average > user. > The majority of computer users just want to know how to use the machine, > not > look under the hood. > If a user is interested in looking under the hood, then they need to do > what > it takes to acquire that knowledge and skill. > I backup my files every day, and sometimes more than once, easy and Jaws > friendly. > I have created a set of restore disks to return my system to a previous > state at will, also Jaws friendly. > I have read the documentation on creating an unattended install of Windows > which can serve as a system recovery, > but have not yet successfully created such a disk, but again, Jaws > friendly. > Whether it is a restore, or recovery, I would suggest to anyone, keep it > small, and not bloated with unnecessary software. > In most cases, a restore disk would be sufficient, since the mechanical > failure of a hard disk is not as frequent these days > as it was in earlier years. > Just because there isn't a way at the present time for all of us to do > these > things the way we want to, > doesn't mean that it cannot be done by a blind user at all. > Anyone that has worked with computers for any great length of time, and in > depth > knows the familiar phrase: > work-around. > We have all had to earn our stripes, so-to-speak, we didn't get it over > night. > I hope this was helpful, if not, contact me off-list. > Richard Q. Justice-website owner > www.blind-computing.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DATA BACKUP AND RESTORE > > > > Brian, > > The problem I have with Drive Image XML > (and apparently all other such disk imaging utilities), is that the > restore > procedure is hopelessly complicated. If you use this program to back up > your system to an external hard drive, like I wish to do, you have to > create > a boot CD in order to restore it, which seems to be a difficult procedure > for a non-techie. I am not aware of any tutorials that provide > step-by -step instructions on how to create and use a boot CD with JAWS. > In > fact, there seem to be no tutorials at all on performing a system recovery > using JAWS. From what I have researched, performing a complete system > recovery in the event of a catastrophic crash requires a good deal of > tech-savvy sighted help. How can a blind person use a boot CD without > crucial visual feedback? I have listened to the tutorials for Disk Image > for Windows, but they do not demonstrate the creation and use of a boot > CD, > nor explain how to back up to an external hard drive and perform a system > recovery. The lack of such a tutorial suggests to me that even the > exalted > geeks on this list may be clueless on how to do this. So, to be > perfectly > blunt, it appears that there is really no simple way for an average blind > computer user to back up his entire system. Everyone likes to talk about > how important it is to back up your system, but nobody likes to talk about > how difficult it is to restore it. Am I missing something here? > > Gerald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Lee" <brianl...@charter.net> > To: "JAWSUsers" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:12 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] DATA BACKUP AND RESTORE > > >> Hello, >> >> A couple of weeks ago I wrote a post about the features of a free data >> backup program called "Drive Image XML." It is available from >> www.runtime.org. I need to make a correction to my post. One of the >> things I said was that Drive Image XML would not backup to a network >> share. The program will backup to a network place or drive. When in the >> step for picking a backup location there is a graphic that is not spoken >> by JAWS. Even if you read a current line JAWS does not indicate there is >> a graphic but simply reads the default path for the backup. However, if >> you route JAWS to PC, move one line under the edit control for the path, >> press home key and then move a word to the left, you will find the >> graphic. A simulated left mouse button click on the graphic will bring >> up >> the dialog box for browsing and you can browse through the tree structure >> to a network shared location. >> >> Another point is that when you first open the program, it seems to not be >> accessible. However, the menu bar is accessible at this point and all >> choices can be made from the menus. You can also use CTRL+B to start the >> backup wizard, CTRL+R to start the restore wizard, and choices for >> browsing and other functions are available in the menus. >> >> I also found another program that is JAWS friendly but it is not a free >> one. The name of the program is "Active@ Disk Image" and it is available >> from www.ntfs.com. It costs $40 but the license allows for installation >> on three different computers. The purchased program has a boot disk >> creator that is not available in the trial version. I used the trial >> version yesterday and backed up just over 100 GB in a little less than >> two >> hours. >> >> I wanted to make the correction about backing up to a network using Drive >> Image XML in case some one on the list avoided trying it out based on >> that >> reason. >> >> Take care. >> >> Brian Lee >> brianl...@charter.net >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
