Nope, your problem is your understanding confuses two things. The insert
key is the Jaws key.
Where you are getting confused is keyboard layout. On laptops, which
sometimes don't have an insert key, the laptop layout makes the Caps-Lock
key function as the Jaws key. And, because smaller laptops lack full-sized
keyboards with separte numpads, some of the function key assignments such as
left-mouse click emulation have been re-assigned in the Laptop keyboard
layout of Jaws. One of those is left-click which is normally the
insert-numpad slash combination but is re-assigned under the laptop
configuration.
As a matter of fact, if you had a full-sized keyboard on your laptop, or
hooked up one and used the laptop layout in Jaws, you'd see that you can
perform the same functions with the Caps lock key or with the insert key.
This proves that both keys are the Jaws key.
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
Steve
Lansing, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deanne Miller" <jawsstude...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
It is my understanding that there is a difference between the Insert key
and the JAWS key. They perform many of the same commands, but at times
they perform different ones. For example, In combination with F12, they
will both announce the time. However, Insert plus 8 activates the keyboard
manager, while JAWS key plus 8 is the same as clicking the left mouse
button. The function key, on the other hand, essentially turns the right
side of the keyboard into the equivalent of the num pad on a full
keyboard. Hence, it performs some of the same commands as the JAWS key,
but certainly not all of them. In my experience, most laptops have this
function key on the bottom row ,second key from the left, and it is worth
knowing about it in case it can make using the laptop keyboard a little
easier. I apologize for any confusion I caused by saying it could double
as a JAWS key. Let's just say that, in addition to the Insert key and the
caps lock JAWS key, there is a function key that can make the right side
of a laptop keyboard function like a numpad.
Again, I'm sorry if I confused anyone. I was really just trying to help.
Deanne
----- Original Message -----
Fromm: "Ijemmer Ramos" <ijemmerjo...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
What do you mean? When you press that function key, that is the key to
the right of the left control in combination with other keys, F12 for
instance, does it say the time? Or if you press that key wit F11, does it
invoke the system tray thing? Is that what you mean by that being a JAWS
key also? Because if that's what you mean, I can say that not all laptops
behave like that so it would be quite confusing if you call that JAWS key
by definition. But if I did not understand what you mean, kindly clarify
your post here because it is really confusing to some. Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deanne Miller" <jawsstude...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
The caps lock key absolutely doubles as the jaws key on a laptop. There
is, though, a key on all of the laptops I have used, as well as my Acer
netbook, that functions as a jaws key. It is the second key in from the
left on the bottom row of keys, just to the right of the control key.
Officially, I think it's called the function key, but don't quote me on
that. I have worked as a computer trainer/technician for about three
years now, and I've found this key on all of the laptops I have used,
including my own. I have fouhnd that it performs very nearly all of the
same functions as the caps lock key on a laptop. It's simply another
option, that's all.
Deanne
-- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <andrew.bara...@va.gov>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
This is one of many situations where using the expression "JAWS key"
may not be helpful. I think it is preferable to call keys by their
standard names. If you are using JAWS in its laptop configuration, the
so called JAWS key is actually the CAPS LOCK key, and I think it would
be more helpful to use that description.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
Thank you, you taught me something new today because my insert key is
the
second key from the right across the top row.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deanne Miller" <jawsstude...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
Some laptops have an insert key, often on the top row, second key from
the
right. Also, often there is a jaws key on the bottom row, second from
the
left, just to the right of the control key. If you hold down the jaws
key, the nine keys, JKL, UIO, and 7 8 9, have the number pad
functions.
Holding down the caps lock key and pressing these keys performs other
reading functions. Experiment with your laptop and see what happens.
Also, don't forget about Insert plus 1, keyboard help. You might
experiment with your laptop using keyboard help and learn how it
functions. That's how I learned to use both of mine.
HTH
Deanne
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
Check the help menu under updates.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh" <lawdog...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS
Jaws Users,
I have been using my Dell 1545 laptop with an external number pad.
My
question to the list is what is the learning curve if I decided to
do
away with the external number pad and just use the keys on the
keyboard?
Is there any tutorials on this topic anywhere? I have Jaws 10 and my
windows is XP. thanks for all help offered on this matter. I thought
it
best to learn this while school is out for the summer.
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