Version 9 or 10? I loved version 9 but I can't use version 10. Same
problem, as soon as avira has found something, Jaws does not work in the
dialog box to select an action. Jaws does not speak, braille does not
read anything. The rest of the program is very accessible, but not the
most important part...

soner <> schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2010 10:00:

> Avira premium is the best of all.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kamil Günay" <kguen...@gmx.de>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:00 PM
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft essential
> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> One big problem is, if Avast finds something, the system locks and
>> without sighted help I cannot choose to ignore or quarantene the File
>> in wich avast has found something. I don't like MSSE, because I have
>> the feeling that it slows my computer down more than avast does, but
>> at least I can do all my tasks myself without sighted help.
>> 
>> And, Avast has deleted mails because Avast did find something in it.
>> The problem is, there was nothing to find. It was just a text file
>> from a german computer magazine that Avast has falsely identified as
>> a virus. So, how useful can a AV program be, if it does not let me
>> have the 
>> final decision? No, I don't like MSSE, but it does, what it should be
>> doing and is much more accessible than the latest Avast 5.
>> 
>> Just my opinion.
>> 
>> Regards!
>> Kamil
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mobeen Iqbal <> schrieb am Montag, 16. August 2010 21:12:
>> 
>>> Avast's removal process has vastly improved from version 4.8, can
>>> you positively state its not better than MSEE if you haven't tried
>>> their latest version? if you have, then that's just your opinion,
>>> its enough for me that i have to use microsoft's software for daily
>>> tasks, i'll refrane from using their anti virus packages as well
>>> purely because if they do inadvertantly break something which
>>> they're almost certainly bound to do at some point just like
>>> they've done in the past, then i'm not being lumbered with an
>>> unnecissary problem. Avast has got me out of quite a few holes that
>>> many other anti-virus checkers haven't been able to, i spend my
>>> time testing various checkers this is what i base my opinions on,
>>> and user feedback as well. As i said i don't wish to become
>>> involved in a debate, each to his own if you're happy with what you
>>> use then good for you. 
>>> 
>>> Mo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> To say Avast has gone out of its way to make its anti-virus program
>>>> blind accessible is laughable. It may well be more accessible now
>>>> than it was previously, but it is still not as blind friendly as
>>>> MSE. If Avast really wanted to make its program blind friendly,
>>>> they would make it easy to remove without having to jump through
>>>> hoops. In some cases, you need to reboot into safe mode to
>>>> completely remove it, which is impossible without sighted help.
>>>> How blind friendly is this? That's why I never considered Avast
>>>> for my anti-virus program of choice. Until someone can produce
>>>> test results demonstrating that it is clearly superior to MSE at
>>>> malware detection, I'll stick with the latter.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mobeen Iqbal"
>>>> <mobeeniq...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft essential
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> In my opinion yes, alot more people are using it as opposed to
>>>>> microsoft security essentials. I just don't like to put all my
>>>>> eggs in 1 basket, and avast have gone out of their way to make
>>>>> their products accessible for the blind, and in my opinion any
>>>>> company that takes the time out for the blind especially for a
>>>>> free product deserves respect. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Pingstock wrote:
>>>>>> Does avast Work better than ms essentials
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
>>>>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:41 PM
>>>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft essential
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Avast works well on slower machines, i had avast free loaded on a
>>>>>> celeron processor running at 900 MHZ with 1 GB of ram.
>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> chris hallsworth wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes you can and I highly recommend you do. Other products may
>>>>>>> bring your netbook to a standstill grins.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>>>> e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
>>>>>>> MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
>>>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>>>>> Klango: chrishallsworth
>>>>>>> If you have any computer problems or queries, please contact me
>>>>>>> on the above channels. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 16/08/2010 18:38, Kathy Pingstock wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can I use the microsoft security essentials on my net book?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>>> 
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