Hi Flor You've introduced a new dimension to the subject by suggesting to me to look in the configuration manager for further options. This I will indeed do. Thank you for assisting!!!
DERICK -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 18 October 2010 10:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS Derick, that 'little detail' cannot be physically (or 'tactually') known at the time, due to non-proportional spacing, font sizes and font point sizes, whether bolding or underlining or italics are being used, until the cantered heading or text has been completed. You still have the 'template' of how this was formerly done, so use that as a frame of reference or guide and trust that it, too, solves the foreseeable problems. The printed characters are smaller than theyr former typewritten equivalents, but the non-proportional spacing negates that to some degree, at least in my understanding of it (which may, of course, be flawed!) There are also margin settings in text editors and in our word-processing programs. And for 'typing' in general now, in the JAWS - application and/or default - Configuration manager (Set Options Text Processing dialogue), JAWS has four Indicate newLines When: checkboxes that may be used. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DERICK GREEFF" <zs1...@cybersmart.co.za> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS > Hi Flor > > Now you see that is exactly what I meant by "getting more > complicated". > > In the early days of learning typing on a manual typewriter (giving > away my > age) we used to do it that way. My main problem now is where the > cursor is > standing once text has been centred. It says the number of the column > as > "one" although it is somewhere in the line. It is this position I > would like > to determine. I've tried all the commands provided for making sure > that it > is indeed centred (it all works like a charm) but knowing on what > column in > the line the first letter of the centred text is is still a mystery to > me. > So, in fear of the moderator closing this subject I should rather just > believe that it is centred according to all the JAWS commands telling > me so > and forget what the column number in that line is where the centred > text > starts or stops. > > I think we are so spoilt with JAWS allowing us to know every little > detail > on the screen that it is difficult for me to accept that this one I > will not > know. > > Thanks again to all the listers who have given their input; it is > appreciated indeed!!! > > DERICK > > -----Original Message----- >>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor > Lynch > Sent: 16 October 2010 12:33 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS > > It gets more complicated still when you include font size, and > non-proportionate fonts, which are standard, making such points less > relevant. It'll all come out fine in the printout - or, visually, the > Print Preview. > > So, for a verbal or surface understanding, let's use a typewriter and > insert a sheet of A4 paper where a full line might be 60 or 65 > characters in width (depending on margin settings, particularly the > right margin), and subtract the number of characters in the centred > text > from 65 and then divide the remainder by two, allowing for one more > space to the right if the centred text has an odd or even number of > characters - depending on what the margin settings are. thus, where > the > right margin was half-an-inch (5 spaces), the left margin 1 inch (10 > spaces), you have 65 spaces (or 6.5 inches) width to play with on an > A4 > standard sheet of paper. If the centred text is 20 characters, it will > start from a position 22 spaces in from the left margin. (this is how > we > used to do things.) > > ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "DERICK GREEFF" <zs1...@cybersmart.co.za> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS > > >> So "Thus Column 1 tells you only that you are on the first column >> of >> text, >> not your position in the actual line." But how do I then determine >> where >> this text is situated in a particular line in the indicator only >> tells >> me >> that I'm on the first column of the text; I thought this was going to >> be >> simple but it gets more complicated!!! >> >> DERICK >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann >> Byrne >> Sent: 14 October 2010 03:06 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS >> >> >>>Just as a blank line in a document is not a line filled with blanks, >>>centered text is not blanks plus text plus blanks. A line space >>>indicator is a single character, and a centering indicator is >>>likewise a single character. Thus Column 1 tells you only that you >>>are on the first column of text, not your position in the actual >>>line. >> >> >>>Stinks, doesn't it? >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
