Well here in the USA. We have the ACB, AFB and NFB. You don't see
them doing anything for accessible software or pushing the big
companies in making that software useable.
So just because they did something or claimed in past, don't mean they do now.
Yes, this can be done, but not enough of the right way can get it
together enough to mean anything. The orgs want profit and press.
Sorry, fighting for accessible software just don't bring in the money!
At 11:57 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
All true, but once again we are discussing a large organization,
well versed in issues of accessibility who have proved that they can
mount well designed sites accessible to adaptive softwares. They
are also an organization that does make a major point of promoting
their accessibility, they even have an entire forum devoted to the
people with adaptive software needs. So they know about and are
able to use the tools you refer to. So to take a perfectly well
set-up accessible site and launch a new and totally inaccessible
one, given the source is unexceptable. And honestly, beside the
point. I want to know how I can use their latest mistake until they
get their act together and put something better up. Based on
previous experience it will take a few months before a more user
friendly site is launched and philosophizing on their inadequacies
isn't helping me in the meantime.
Joy
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my original artwork at:
www.tigerfeathers.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: tim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer
Well the problem lays with the programmer. The tools are there to
make all software and computers useable for those with disabilities.
However, those tools are consider extra and use plane functions for
buttons and stuff like that.
The programmer can still use custom code, but if the accessibility
functions are not turned on or used. Then its just pretty code for the eye.
When it comes to programming not much is standard and custom is the thing.
Also not all accessible code is standard. If it was then wineyes and
jaws would both be the same.
Apple is the only one that put standards that all software for its
platform. Must be useable by voice over. The problem there is they
don't turn on those features unless asked, but they are there to meet
the requirements.
At 11:29 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
>yeah, i can see that. but why are there so *many* Flash pages on the
>Web that aren't accessibly coded? And the BBC prides itself on
>accessibility. (or should I say, prided? After all, their chatter is
>now almost all about cutbacks.)
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "tim" <z200...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer
>
>
>>Its working with the flash as its suppose to.
>>However, the new page given has flash not using accessibility. They
>>just left it out or someone else did the coding.
>>
>>At 10:33 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
>>>There are unlabbelled buttons in the flash content, which JAWS12
>>>sees. Mine called the Play button unlabelled 1 button, and if I
>>>press that to pause it becomes unlabelled 2 button. JAWS11 may not
>>>be working well enough with this flash content, but in any case it
>>>is or appears to be rather unsatisfactory so far.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Cyr" <delig...@aei.ca>
>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good day,
>>>>My flash is enabled, and it sounds to me as though you are
>>>>describing the older, accessible consol which I never had a
>>>>moments problem with and would like to continue using. The new
>>>>one is NOT! like that.
>>>>
>>>>I am using Jaws 11, and my problems began Sunday night,, ... I
>>>>use the BBC site for one reason or another at least six days a
>>>>week and have for over five years, so please believe me this is recent.
>>>>
>>>>If they work correctly the two links below should take you to the
>>>>two different listen again pages they are now presenting. The
>>>>first is the old accessible page, the second the new page where I
>>>>have not been able to find the buttons that are still there, somewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00zzz1y
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Flor Lynch
>>>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:40 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You need to have flash enabled, as the page has a lot of that. the
>>>>buttons are then read by JAWS. there is the Play/pause button which does
>>>>what it says. The timeline button allows you to jump by percentage
>>>>increments, the percentage being of the programme's length. There is
>>>>also a volume adjust button, and an Adobe Flash popout button. You
>>>>didn't say which version of JAWS you're using.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Joy Cyr" <delig...@aei.ca>
>>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:28 AM
>>>>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Good day,
>>>>>Has anyone come across the new (and supposedly improved) iPlayer that
>>>>>the BBC uses to play their radio shows online? The "old" one uploaded
>>>>>and showed a simple consol that was easy for Jaws to navigate. This
>>>>>new one is displaying a page filled with links, graphics and text. I
>>>>>had someone sighted take a look and the vital buttons are still there,
>>>>>and have the same labels: play/pause, volume and timeline, but Jaws
>>>>>can't find/see them with either cursor. Could this possibly be a Jaws
>>>>>setting I need to change? Or is there a work around that will let me
>>>>>find them? Because not being able to hit pause during a three hour
>>>>>show is a real problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>If anyone has any help or suggestions to offer I'd be very
>>>>>appreciative,
>>>>>Yours sincerely,
>>>>>Joy
>>>>>Please take a few moments to browse and enjoy
>>>>>my original artwork at:
>>>>>www.tigerfeathers.ca
>>>>>
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