Hi Hamit;

If you are referring to someone not wanting to bother with a Beta update, 
then I guess they would do with it like anyone else does with any other 
message they don't want to bother with!  Press the magical key called the, 
delete key!  LOL  LOL

Take care.
Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hamit Campos
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


  What about if they just plain don't want to bother with that?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike & 
Barbara
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:36 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released

  Hi Chris;

  I'm not trying to be a smart ass but, I know it's not very hard to go to
  Freedom Scientific's website, for those who know how to navigate it but,
  there are people who  belong to this list that may not have the Jaws
  navigation skills that others have.  We have to remember that everybody 
who
  belongs to these lists' have different levels of Jaws / computer skills!
  Take care.
  Mike

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: CrisMunoz54
    To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
    Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


    It's really not all that hard to go to FS's website.
    http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp

    -----Original Message-----
    From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
    [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike &
  Barbara
    Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:47 AM
    To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released

    Hi Eric;

    This is the message I received when attempting to update via the 
automatic
    update option;

    JAWS Setup Package Error
    graphic 132  The JAWS setup package could not install the required
  component

    JAWSPatch.  The process will now exit.
    OK

    This is why I prefer to download / save from the website.  Would you
  please
    post the download link from the Freedom Scientific website?  Thank you
  very
    much for all your help.  Take care.
    Mike

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Eric Damery
      To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
      Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:02 AM
      Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


      All,



      Below is the list of changes that have occurred as a result of 
feedback
      over the past few weeks. If you have JAWS 13 public beta 1 installed,
      the next time you restart JAWS 13, it should alert you that the update
      is now available. Work is continuing and we expect the next update for
      you within 3 weeks.



      Regards,

      Eric Damery

      Enhancements in JAWS 13.0.171 (September 26, 2011)

      The following is a list of improvements made between JAWS 13.0.97,
      public beta 1, and 13.0.171, public beta 2. Note that while many
      customer reported enhancements are included in this release, the
      following is a list of more notable changes.

      JAWS

      * Added three new keystrokes to the Table layer (INSERT+SPACEBAR,
      T). They are ALT+COMMA to read the current cell, WINDOWS KEY+COMMA to
      read the current row, and WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD to read the current 
column.
      * JAWS now announces links in the Results Viewer when navigating
      using TAB or SHIFT+TAB.
      * Resolved an issue with the Amazon Product Search ResearchIt
      lookup source not returning any results.
      * Addressed an issue of no speech on the Windows logon screen if a
      Handy Tech braille display was connected.
      * You can now press H in addition to QUESTION MARK from within a
      layer to get help on layered keystrokes. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR,
      O, H will list the keystrokes in the OCR layer. This addresses issues
      encountered using QUESTION MARK on non-English keyboards.
      * Updated the JAWS help with new topics for the Convenient OCR
      feature.
      * Resolved an issue in Settings Center where the search was being
      cleared after pressing CTRL+SHIFT+D to open Default.
      * Addressed a reported issue where JAWS would speak dollar
      amounts, such as $27.19, as a combination of pairs and single digits
      even with Number Processing set to Single Digits.
      * Added access keys for the OK and Cancel buttons in all JAWS
      place marker dialog boxes.
      * When pressing UP or DOWN ARROW on the Display Placemarkers For
      group of radio buttons, addressed an issue where focus would move to 
the
      next or previous control instead of remaining on the selected option.
      * Resolved an issue using JAWS with the Event Viewer in Windows
      XP.
      * Resolved an issue selecting text using the SHIFT+CURSOR ROUTER
      buttons on Focus braille displays.
      * Improved skim reading a document when using the Attributes and
      Color Rules Apply for Reading option.
      * Resolved an issue in Settings Center where the location in the
      tree view was lost when switching to another application then back to
      Settings Center.
      * The custom placemarker summary is now displayed in the Results
      Viewer as expected.
      * Resolved an issue in the Modify Voice Alias dialog box where
      JAWS was not speaking the names of the Pitch and Rate slider controls
      when modifying the OCR Voice alias.
      * Addressed a reported issue selecting the laptop keyboard layout
      using the Startup Wizard.

      Quick Settings

      * In Windows 7, after you press the APPLICATIONS key on an item in
      the tree view to open the context menu to change the persistence 
level,
      resolved an issue where the braille display would only show the first
      item in the menu even though JAWS would speak the other options as you
      navigate. In addition, the check mark indicating the current 
persistence
      level for an option is now shown in braille.
      * Updated the INSERT+F1 help messages for the Search edit field
      and the tree view to provide more information specific to Quick
      Settings.
      * Toggling the Select and Copy option, located under the Virtual
      Cursor options, now works as expected when set to Virtual Cursor or
      Using On Screen Highlight.
      * Added context help for the Last Changed Settings tree view item.
      * Addressed an issue where changing the punctuation setting for an
      application in Quick Settings would not work. JAWS would continue 
using
      the default punctuation selected in the Startup Wizard.

      Convenient OCR

      * Resolved an issue reading text with the Invisible Cursor after
      performing OCR in a PDF document.
      * Resolved an issue with Convenient OCR not recognizing the last
      line of a screen from a DVD movie.
      * Resolved an issue where JAWS would close when attempting to
      perform OCR and a Handy Tech braille display was connected.
      * Resolved an issue where JAWS would not close properly if you
      attempted to close it while OCR is in progress.

      Adobe Acrobat

      * Addressed an issue that could occur when launching JAWS in Adobe
      Reader 10 while MAGic is currently running.

      IBM Lotus Notes

      * Resolved a reported issue with selecting and copying text where
      the prior line was being copied to the clipboard instead of the
      currently selected text.

      Microsoft Access

      * Addressed an issue navigating in data tables in Access 2007 and
      2010.

      Microsoft Excel

      * Added more descriptive Keyboard Help messages for the ALT+PAGE
      UP and ALT+PAGE DOWN keystrokes.
      * Changes in attributes such as bold or italics are now shown in
      braille as a flash message.
      * When navigating the list of functions for inserting into a
      spreadsheet, addressed an issue where JAWS was not speaking or
      displaying in braille the function description.
      * Resolved an issue where the error for there being no custom
      summary was not shown on the braille display.
      * Addressed an issue where braille was changing to Line mode in
      the Find dialog box.
      * If you enter text in a blank cell followed by DOWN ARROW,
      resolved an issue where JAWS would read the entire row. JAWS should 
only
      read the current cell.
      * Resolved an issue in the Categories list box in the Options
      dialog box where JAWS would occasionally speak the previous item 
before
      speaking the currently selected item while navigating with UP and DOWN
      ARROW.
      * When changing the Cell Verbosity option in Quick Settings to
      Content Only, JAWS no longer reads cell coordinates when selecting
      cells.
      * Resolved an issue in Quick Settings where toggling Comments
      Detection was being applied to all worksheets in the workbook instead 
of
      the currently active sheet.
      * Addressed an issue in Quick Settings with the Merged Cells
      Detection not being document specific.

      Microsoft Internet Explorer

      * Resolved an issue reading check boxes on the Earthlink Web Mail
      site.
      * Resolved an issue on www.usajobs.gov where the page would
      unexpectedly close or refresh while attempting to apply for a federal
      job.
      * Resolved an issue reading buttons on Google Web sites using the
      Virtual PC cursor and Navigation Quick Keys.
      * Resolved an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close on
      www.google.ua when pressing CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete by word.
      * Resolved an issue where the Skim Read summary could not be
      opened from the Word List dialog box.
      * Addressed issues with certain list boxes where JAWS would speak
      the selected item twice while navigating.
      * Resolved an issue with JAWS closing unexpectedly when replying
      to a message in GMail.
      * Resolved a reported issue where under certain circumstances,
      Data Grids would disappear from the Virtual Buffer after a page was
      updated.

      Microsoft Office

      * Resolved an issue in both Excel and Word when typing a 2003
      command sequence. The popup message "continue typing the 2003 command
      sequence" was not spoken or brailled correctly.
      * Addressed issues using INSERT+B to read the contents of dialog
      boxes in Microsoft Office applications.
      * JAWS now reads the text of the dialog box that appears when you
      attempt to close the application and the current document has not yet
      been saved.
      * Removed some unnecessary text that was being shown on the
      braille display when opening the ribbon with the Virtual Ribbon
      disabled.
      * Resolved issues of JAWS not announcing and spelling grammattical
      errors when spell checking a Word document or Outlook message.

      Microsoft Outlook

      * Addressed an issue where JAWS would become sluggish after
      opening a context menu in Outlook 2007 or 2010.
      * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading column headers for
      messages in the Sent Items folder of Outlook 2003.
      * Addressed issues navigating around the Info tab of the File menu
      in Outlook 2010.
      * Improved JAWS identifying graphics contained in e-mail messages.
      * Resolved an issue navigating the address book in Outlook 2010
      when opened from a message header.
      * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly returning focus
      to the Advanced Find dialog box after selecting a contact.
      * Resolved an issue with JAWS beginning to read the entire message
      list when the Inbox opens after launching Outlook.
      * Resolved an issue using the Automatic Replies dialog box in
      Outlook 2010. JAWS now reads the contents of the People inside my
      organization field when pressing UP or DOWN ARROW.
      * Resolved an issue encountered when positioned at the beginning
      of a line in a new message. The braille cursor would appear both at 
the
      beginning of the current line and at the end of the previous line.
      * If the Virtual Ribbon is off and you activate the ribbon from
      the body of a message, resolved an issue where JAWS would say 
"message"
      instead of the control name while navigating through controls.
      * JAWS now alerts you when you enter a table in an Outlook 2007 or
      2010 message.
      * Several options specific to Word are no longer listed when
      opening Quick Settings from within Outlook.
      * Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading controls correctly
      in the Appointment Recurrence dialog box in Outlook 2007.
      * When attempting to change the format of an Outlook 2007 message
      to plain text, resolved an issue where JAWS would not read the
      Compatibility Checker dialog box.
      * Resolved issues with the CTRL+E keystroke to move to the Search
      edit field in Quick Settings not working when opened from Outlook.

      Microsoft PowerPoint

      * Addressed issues with navigating and reading tables contained in
      slides.

      Microsoft Word

      * Resolved a reported issue of JAWS not properly reading field
      labels on some Word forms.
      * Addressed an issue where the Virtual Viewer was not being shown
      on the screen after pressing INSERT+F twice quickly to virtualize font
      information.
      * When spell checking a document, resolved multiple issues where
      the next error was not getting announced after pressing ALT+C to 
accept
      a change or when pressing ENTER to ignore the error and move to the 
next
      one.
      * Resolved an issue where changes to the Row Titles Column Set
      option in Quick Settings were not being saved.
      * Resolved issues with JAWS detecting newly created tables and not
      reading bookmark titles.
      * If you are using Navigation Quick Key W to move by words in a
      word list (INSERT+CTRL+W) during a Say All, The Say All no longer 
stops
      after pressing W twice.
      * Resolved an issue with the text of endnotes not being shown on
      the braille display.
      * Addressed an issue in Word 2010 where the bullet type was still
      being announced even though Bullet Type Indication was disabled in 
Quick
      Settings.
      * Resolved an issue in Word 2010 where JAWS would not read the
      values in the edit fields of the Font dialog box after navigating in 
the
      Effects group.
      * If a word list is generated for a Word document or Outlook
      message, pressing SHIFT+W now moves to the previous word as expected.
      * Resolved an issue when using ALT+SHIFT+A in outline view to show
      all of the text associated with the selected heading level.
      * If the Virtual Viewer or Results Viewer opens, if Quick Keys are
      on in the current document, they will now remain active.
      * Addressed an issue of form fields being spoken twice when using
      F and SHIFT+F to move through a protected form.
      * Resolved an issue where the word list summary was not displaying
      all occurrences of a word as a link.
      * Resolved an issue where the first time a table navigation
      command is performed in a new table, JAWS would not speak. This would
      occur if the Virtual Ribbon was disabled and a table was inserted.
      * Resolved an intermittent issue with tables in Word 2010 where
      after typing in a cell then pressing TAB, JAWS was not always 
announcing
      the next cell you moved to.
      * Addressed an issue of JAWS not reading controls when navigating
      the Options dialog box if it is opened from the Spelling and Grammar
      dialog box. Controls read fine when the Options Dialog box was opened
      from the document.
      * Resolved multiple issues with JAWS not indicating non-uniform
      tables either during a Say All, or general navigation.
      * Pressing TAB or SHIFT+TAB to move to the next or previous cell
      in a table no longer causes JAWS to speak part of the text in the cell
      you were just in.
      * Addressed a braille issue where an entire line of text
      containing a link was being underlined. Only the link itself should 
have
      an underline in braille.
      * Resolved a reported issue where JAWS would sometimes get the
      table row or column count wrong in Word causing it to announce a 
change
      in the number of row or columns when in fact, no change occurred.
      * Resolved an issue with the German version of JAWS where spelling
      errors were not being indicated.

      Mozilla Firefox

      * The message "Use JAWSKey+ALT+R to read descriptive text" is no
      longer heard continuously as you navigate through a table containing a
      caption.
      * JAWS now reads the name of the page being bookmarked when the
      Add Bookmark dialog box opens.
      * Resolved an issue where links were not highlighted in braille.
      This only occured in Windows XP.
      * Pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C to OCR a graphic now works as
      expected.
      * Addressed a reported issue reading lists that contain links.
      * Resolved an issue regarding the JavaScript function, SetTimeout,
      reported by a developer.

      Mozilla Thunderbird

      * JAWS no longer says "selected" when selecting text in a message
      and the verbosity level is set to Advanced.
      * JAWS now reads all of the controls in the Account Settings
      dialog box.

      Winamp

      * Resolved an issue where keystrokes that include both the ALT and
      CTRL keys were not working as expected.

      Windows 7

      * Resolved an issue in Windows 7 or Vista, if JAWS was getting
      license keys from a license server on the network and was set to run 
on
      the secure desktop, it would not release the ILM key after you logged
      in. This could cause JAWS to tie up two keys at a single work station.
      * Braille display controls, such as panning buttons and cursor
      routers, will now work in the UAK dialog box.

      Windows Live Mail

      * Improved JAWS support for the Windows Live Mail calendar.
      Appointments are now announced as you navigate in the Day, Week, and
      Month views.



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