careful there Mr. Mike, you might need a trip to Phil's couch,grins

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


Hi Hamit;

If you are referring to someone not wanting to bother with a Beta update,
then I guess they would do with it like anyone else does with any other
message they don't want to bother with!  Press the magical key called the,
delete key!  LOL  LOL

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: Hamit Campos
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


 What about if they just plain don't want to bother with that?

 -----Original Message-----
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike &
Barbara
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:36 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released

 Hi Chris;

 I'm not trying to be a smart ass but, I know it's not very hard to go to
 Freedom Scientific's website, for those who know how to navigate it but,
 there are people who  belong to this list that may not have the Jaws
 navigation skills that others have.  We have to remember that everybody
who
 belongs to these lists' have different levels of Jaws / computer skills!
 Take care.
 Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: CrisMunoz54
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:51 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


   It's really not all that hard to go to FS's website.
   http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp

   -----Original Message-----
   From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
   [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike &
 Barbara
   Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:47 AM
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released

   Hi Eric;

   This is the message I received when attempting to update via the
automatic
   update option;

   JAWS Setup Package Error
   graphic 132  The JAWS setup package could not install the required
 component

   JAWSPatch.  The process will now exit.
   OK

   This is why I prefer to download / save from the website.  Would you
 please
   post the download link from the Freedom Scientific website?  Thank you
 very
   much for all your help.  Take care.
   Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Damery
     To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
     Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:02 AM
     Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13 Public Beta 2 has been released


     All,



     Below is the list of changes that have occurred as a result of
feedback
     over the past few weeks. If you have JAWS 13 public beta 1 installed,
the next time you restart JAWS 13, it should alert you that the update is now available. Work is continuing and we expect the next update for
     you within 3 weeks.



     Regards,

     Eric Damery

     Enhancements in JAWS 13.0.171 (September 26, 2011)

     The following is a list of improvements made between JAWS 13.0.97,
     public beta 1, and 13.0.171, public beta 2. Note that while many
     customer reported enhancements are included in this release, the
     following is a list of more notable changes.

     JAWS

     * Added three new keystrokes to the Table layer (INSERT+SPACEBAR,
     T). They are ALT+COMMA to read the current cell, WINDOWS KEY+COMMA to
     read the current row, and WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD to read the current
column.
     * JAWS now announces links in the Results Viewer when navigating
     using TAB or SHIFT+TAB.
     * Resolved an issue with the Amazon Product Search ResearchIt
     lookup source not returning any results.
     * Addressed an issue of no speech on the Windows logon screen if a
     Handy Tech braille display was connected.
     * You can now press H in addition to QUESTION MARK from within a
layer to get help on layered keystrokes. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR,
     O, H will list the keystrokes in the OCR layer. This addresses issues
     encountered using QUESTION MARK on non-English keyboards.
     * Updated the JAWS help with new topics for the Convenient OCR
     feature.
     * Resolved an issue in Settings Center where the search was being
     cleared after pressing CTRL+SHIFT+D to open Default.
     * Addressed a reported issue where JAWS would speak dollar
     amounts, such as $27.19, as a combination of pairs and single digits
     even with Number Processing set to Single Digits.
     * Added access keys for the OK and Cancel buttons in all JAWS
     place marker dialog boxes.
     * When pressing UP or DOWN ARROW on the Display Placemarkers For
     group of radio buttons, addressed an issue where focus would move to
the
     next or previous control instead of remaining on the selected option.
     * Resolved an issue using JAWS with the Event Viewer in Windows
     XP.
     * Resolved an issue selecting text using the SHIFT+CURSOR ROUTER
     buttons on Focus braille displays.
     * Improved skim reading a document when using the Attributes and
     Color Rules Apply for Reading option.
     * Resolved an issue in Settings Center where the location in the
     tree view was lost when switching to another application then back to
     Settings Center.
     * The custom placemarker summary is now displayed in the Results
     Viewer as expected.
     * Resolved an issue in the Modify Voice Alias dialog box where
     JAWS was not speaking the names of the Pitch and Rate slider controls
     when modifying the OCR Voice alias.
     * Addressed a reported issue selecting the laptop keyboard layout
     using the Startup Wizard.

     Quick Settings

     * In Windows 7, after you press the APPLICATIONS key on an item in
     the tree view to open the context menu to change the persistence
level,
     resolved an issue where the braille display would only show the first
item in the menu even though JAWS would speak the other options as you
     navigate. In addition, the check mark indicating the current
persistence
     level for an option is now shown in braille.
     * Updated the INSERT+F1 help messages for the Search edit field
     and the tree view to provide more information specific to Quick
     Settings.
     * Toggling the Select and Copy option, located under the Virtual
     Cursor options, now works as expected when set to Virtual Cursor or
     Using On Screen Highlight.
     * Added context help for the Last Changed Settings tree view item.
     * Addressed an issue where changing the punctuation setting for an
     application in Quick Settings would not work. JAWS would continue
using
     the default punctuation selected in the Startup Wizard.

     Convenient OCR

     * Resolved an issue reading text with the Invisible Cursor after
     performing OCR in a PDF document.
     * Resolved an issue with Convenient OCR not recognizing the last
     line of a screen from a DVD movie.
     * Resolved an issue where JAWS would close when attempting to
     perform OCR and a Handy Tech braille display was connected.
     * Resolved an issue where JAWS would not close properly if you
     attempted to close it while OCR is in progress.

     Adobe Acrobat

     * Addressed an issue that could occur when launching JAWS in Adobe
     Reader 10 while MAGic is currently running.

     IBM Lotus Notes

     * Resolved a reported issue with selecting and copying text where
     the prior line was being copied to the clipboard instead of the
     currently selected text.

     Microsoft Access

     * Addressed an issue navigating in data tables in Access 2007 and
     2010.

     Microsoft Excel

     * Added more descriptive Keyboard Help messages for the ALT+PAGE
     UP and ALT+PAGE DOWN keystrokes.
     * Changes in attributes such as bold or italics are now shown in
     braille as a flash message.
     * When navigating the list of functions for inserting into a
     spreadsheet, addressed an issue where JAWS was not speaking or
     displaying in braille the function description.
     * Resolved an issue where the error for there being no custom
     summary was not shown on the braille display.
     * Addressed an issue where braille was changing to Line mode in
     the Find dialog box.
     * If you enter text in a blank cell followed by DOWN ARROW,
     resolved an issue where JAWS would read the entire row. JAWS should
only
     read the current cell.
     * Resolved an issue in the Categories list box in the Options
     dialog box where JAWS would occasionally speak the previous item
before
speaking the currently selected item while navigating with UP and DOWN
     ARROW.
     * When changing the Cell Verbosity option in Quick Settings to
     Content Only, JAWS no longer reads cell coordinates when selecting
     cells.
     * Resolved an issue in Quick Settings where toggling Comments
     Detection was being applied to all worksheets in the workbook instead
of
     the currently active sheet.
     * Addressed an issue in Quick Settings with the Merged Cells
     Detection not being document specific.

     Microsoft Internet Explorer

     * Resolved an issue reading check boxes on the Earthlink Web Mail
     site.
     * Resolved an issue on www.usajobs.gov where the page would
     unexpectedly close or refresh while attempting to apply for a federal
     job.
     * Resolved an issue reading buttons on Google Web sites using the
     Virtual PC cursor and Navigation Quick Keys.
     * Resolved an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close on
     www.google.ua when pressing CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete by word.
     * Resolved an issue where the Skim Read summary could not be
     opened from the Word List dialog box.
     * Addressed issues with certain list boxes where JAWS would speak
     the selected item twice while navigating.
     * Resolved an issue with JAWS closing unexpectedly when replying
     to a message in GMail.
     * Resolved a reported issue where under certain circumstances,
     Data Grids would disappear from the Virtual Buffer after a page was
     updated.

     Microsoft Office

     * Resolved an issue in both Excel and Word when typing a 2003
     command sequence. The popup message "continue typing the 2003 command
     sequence" was not spoken or brailled correctly.
     * Addressed issues using INSERT+B to read the contents of dialog
     boxes in Microsoft Office applications.
     * JAWS now reads the text of the dialog box that appears when you
     attempt to close the application and the current document has not yet
     been saved.
     * Removed some unnecessary text that was being shown on the
     braille display when opening the ribbon with the Virtual Ribbon
     disabled.
     * Resolved issues of JAWS not announcing and spelling grammattical
     errors when spell checking a Word document or Outlook message.

     Microsoft Outlook

     * Addressed an issue where JAWS would become sluggish after
     opening a context menu in Outlook 2007 or 2010.
     * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading column headers for
     messages in the Sent Items folder of Outlook 2003.
     * Addressed issues navigating around the Info tab of the File menu
     in Outlook 2010.
     * Improved JAWS identifying graphics contained in e-mail messages.
     * Resolved an issue navigating the address book in Outlook 2010
     when opened from a message header.
     * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly returning focus
     to the Advanced Find dialog box after selecting a contact.
     * Resolved an issue with JAWS beginning to read the entire message
     list when the Inbox opens after launching Outlook.
     * Resolved an issue using the Automatic Replies dialog box in
     Outlook 2010. JAWS now reads the contents of the People inside my
     organization field when pressing UP or DOWN ARROW.
     * Resolved an issue encountered when positioned at the beginning
     of a line in a new message. The braille cursor would appear both at
the
     beginning of the current line and at the end of the previous line.
     * If the Virtual Ribbon is off and you activate the ribbon from
     the body of a message, resolved an issue where JAWS would say
"message"
     instead of the control name while navigating through controls.
     * JAWS now alerts you when you enter a table in an Outlook 2007 or
     2010 message.
     * Several options specific to Word are no longer listed when
     opening Quick Settings from within Outlook.
     * Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading controls correctly
     in the Appointment Recurrence dialog box in Outlook 2007.
     * When attempting to change the format of an Outlook 2007 message
     to plain text, resolved an issue where JAWS would not read the
     Compatibility Checker dialog box.
     * Resolved issues with the CTRL+E keystroke to move to the Search
     edit field in Quick Settings not working when opened from Outlook.

     Microsoft PowerPoint

     * Addressed issues with navigating and reading tables contained in
     slides.

     Microsoft Word

     * Resolved a reported issue of JAWS not properly reading field
     labels on some Word forms.
     * Addressed an issue where the Virtual Viewer was not being shown
on the screen after pressing INSERT+F twice quickly to virtualize font
     information.
     * When spell checking a document, resolved multiple issues where
     the next error was not getting announced after pressing ALT+C to
accept
     a change or when pressing ENTER to ignore the error and move to the
next
     one.
     * Resolved an issue where changes to the Row Titles Column Set
     option in Quick Settings were not being saved.
     * Resolved issues with JAWS detecting newly created tables and not
     reading bookmark titles.
     * If you are using Navigation Quick Key W to move by words in a
     word list (INSERT+CTRL+W) during a Say All, The Say All no longer
stops
     after pressing W twice.
     * Resolved an issue with the text of endnotes not being shown on
     the braille display.
     * Addressed an issue in Word 2010 where the bullet type was still
     being announced even though Bullet Type Indication was disabled in
Quick
     Settings.
     * Resolved an issue in Word 2010 where JAWS would not read the
     values in the edit fields of the Font dialog box after navigating in
the
     Effects group.
     * If a word list is generated for a Word document or Outlook
     message, pressing SHIFT+W now moves to the previous word as expected.
     * Resolved an issue when using ALT+SHIFT+A in outline view to show
     all of the text associated with the selected heading level.
     * If the Virtual Viewer or Results Viewer opens, if Quick Keys are
     on in the current document, they will now remain active.
     * Addressed an issue of form fields being spoken twice when using
     F and SHIFT+F to move through a protected form.
     * Resolved an issue where the word list summary was not displaying
     all occurrences of a word as a link.
     * Resolved an issue where the first time a table navigation
     command is performed in a new table, JAWS would not speak. This would
     occur if the Virtual Ribbon was disabled and a table was inserted.
     * Resolved an intermittent issue with tables in Word 2010 where
     after typing in a cell then pressing TAB, JAWS was not always
announcing
     the next cell you moved to.
     * Addressed an issue of JAWS not reading controls when navigating
     the Options dialog box if it is opened from the Spelling and Grammar
     dialog box. Controls read fine when the Options Dialog box was opened
     from the document.
     * Resolved multiple issues with JAWS not indicating non-uniform
     tables either during a Say All, or general navigation.
     * Pressing TAB or SHIFT+TAB to move to the next or previous cell
in a table no longer causes JAWS to speak part of the text in the cell
     you were just in.
     * Addressed a braille issue where an entire line of text
     containing a link was being underlined. Only the link itself should
have
     an underline in braille.
     * Resolved a reported issue where JAWS would sometimes get the
     table row or column count wrong in Word causing it to announce a
change
     in the number of row or columns when in fact, no change occurred.
     * Resolved an issue with the German version of JAWS where spelling
     errors were not being indicated.

     Mozilla Firefox

     * The message "Use JAWSKey+ALT+R to read descriptive text" is no
longer heard continuously as you navigate through a table containing a
     caption.
     * JAWS now reads the name of the page being bookmarked when the
     Add Bookmark dialog box opens.
     * Resolved an issue where links were not highlighted in braille.
     This only occured in Windows XP.
     * Pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C to OCR a graphic now works as
     expected.
     * Addressed a reported issue reading lists that contain links.
     * Resolved an issue regarding the JavaScript function, SetTimeout,
     reported by a developer.

     Mozilla Thunderbird

     * JAWS no longer says "selected" when selecting text in a message
     and the verbosity level is set to Advanced.
     * JAWS now reads all of the controls in the Account Settings
     dialog box.

     Winamp

     * Resolved an issue where keystrokes that include both the ALT and
     CTRL keys were not working as expected.

     Windows 7

     * Resolved an issue in Windows 7 or Vista, if JAWS was getting
     license keys from a license server on the network and was set to run
on
     the secure desktop, it would not release the ILM key after you logged
in. This could cause JAWS to tie up two keys at a single work station.
     * Braille display controls, such as panning buttons and cursor
     routers, will now work in the UAK dialog box.

     Windows Live Mail

     * Improved JAWS support for the Windows Live Mail calendar.
     Appointments are now announced as you navigate in the Day, Week, and
     Month views.



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