That's one reason I'm going to be watching Windows 10--a free OS with built-in 
protection may be just the ticket.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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Of valiant8086
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi.
I trust Windows Defender / Microsoft Security Essentials well enough. 
The reported reason it doesn't rate as well as everyone else is two fold

1. It doesn't bother blocking non realistic issues that are only really 
applicable in test cases and not a real world concern

2. Its detection engine is available to all anti virus applications like AVG 
and so on because Microsoft's goal really is to set the standard. 
The theory here is that all other AV applications should be as good as MSSE, 
then a little better because they should be using the detection engine features 
or what ever you call that, which MSSE does as a baseline. Why bother 
reinventing the wheel? Then they focus on making theirs better, I hope.

Now, before anyone asks me to quote sources, I have none. I read something like 
my number 2 item somewhere, and I'm making an educated guess on the number 1 
item. Where I read the number 2 item from I don't recall, it's been over a year 
since then. That said, take what I say as just that, something I said, and not 
necessarily the truth, but also, keep in mind that I practice what I preach, 
MSSE and Windows Defender are all that I run continuously on my computers and 
to the best of my knowledge, it has been doing a decent job.



Cheers, Sent with Thunderbird 31.3.0 portable On 5/14/2015 5:12 PM, Steve wrote:
> Yeah, ditto.  I understand MSSE doesn't get the highest ratings, but it is 
> totally accessible.
>
> I do tech support and I routinely use this as my anti-virus and recommend it 
> for others who use screen-readers.  I use a separately off-line virus scan 
> with Sophos, although there are other scanners that will work, just as a 
> backup to verify that the computer is clean.  I also run a separate 
> MalwareBytes anti-spyware.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, Mi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: valiant8086
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Anti-virus
>
>
> Hi.
> If you're running windows 8 just use windows defender. Otherwise, use 
> microsoft Security Essentials. That's what I've been doing at least. 
> I'm happy.
> If you need a download link for Security Essentials (remember windows 
> defender is actually Security Essentials if you're running windows 8 
> or
> 8.1 or 10 so don't download security essentials for those OS's) 
> http://microsoft.com/securityessentials
>
> also in case someone realizes that Windows 7 has Windows Defender, 
> that is not Security Essentials on Windows Vista and Windows 7, 
> completely different program just to confuse everyone so Security 
> Essentials is still Relevant there.
>
> Cheers, Sent with Thunderbird 31.3.0 portable On 5/14/2015 7:14 AM, 
> Tom Behler wrote:
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>>    
>>
>> You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a 
>> program on my computer running in the background, and interfering with Jaws.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest 
>> version of the AVG anti-virus software.  I think the version number is AVG 
>> 15.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally 
>> unusable.
>>
>>    
>>
>> I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you 
>> deal with it?
>>
>>    
>>
>> If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using 
>> with Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly 
>> anti-virus program?
>>
>>    
>>
>> I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running 
>> this computer without anti-virus software.
>>
>>    
>>
>> For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>
>>    
>>
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