Thanks, Mike - the message you forwarded gave a good summary. The main problem I'm encountering is that of trying to work out what has changed in places where the person editing the document has made a modificaiton, with tracking enabled. For example, if someone has both inserted and deleted text in a sentence, I wish to discover quickly what the original was and what it changed to. This is obvious visually, apparently, but not with a screen reader unless I'm overlooking something important.
Mike B <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Take a look at the Word 2010 note below & see if it will help any. Also, > you might want to make a copy of any document you work with so you always > have a copy of the original before you make any changes. > > Original Message > From: Annette Carr > Hello All, > I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide > feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the > team provides their input to the document through "track changes" or by > making pen marks on the hardcopy. The business need of the task flow will > determine the order in which each team member receives the document for > their input. The second person gets to see the first person's feedback, and > the third person gets to see the feedback from both the first and second > person. This is to eliminate duplication, making it easier for the final > person to make decisions about what will be changed. > > It is clear to everyone that the hardcopy method needs to be eliminated and > everyone needs to provide their feedback electronically, or a human reader > needs to be provided as an accommodation. > > If electronic is the path taken, here are my questions. > > 1. Is there a viable way for a JAWS user to gain valuable information > from "track changes". I have not figured out how, so any feedback, > suggestions, and/or recommended resources to learn how to do this will be > appreciated. > > 2. Is there any improvements in the use of MS-Words Comment feature > with JAWS 14? For me it appears that the access to the Comments feature in > MS-Word 2010 by JAWS 12 has been broken. I used to use it in Office 2003. > I would highlight the character, word, phrase, etc. and insert a comment > containing my suggested changes, question, recommendations, etc. Is it > possible to use the comments feature in MS-Word 2010 and some version of > JAWS? > > 3. If anyone has a suggestion for a different way of accomplishing > this task, your feedback will be appreciated. > Thanks, > Annette > > From: Brian Lee > Hello Annette, > > Here are a few things you might be able to use. I had some notes that I > created some time ago that I am pasting below. > > Take care. > > TRACKING REVISIONS USING JAWS AND WORD 2010 > > Turn tracking on by using CTRL+shift+E. If using insert+v to bring up JAWS > verbosity, press the letter T until the track changes choice is found. Use > spacebar to cycle between the choices JAWS gives for what is spoken when > revisions are found and then press enter key to accept a choice. Choices > include type, type and author, type, author and date, as well as others. > > You can use Windows key with semicolon in Word 2010 to bring up a virtual > window with options for viewing comments, footnotes, endnotes or revisions. > The virtual window will have links to the comments, revisions, etc. Use > enter key on any link to move to the targeted reference. If a change has > been made in a document and the document has been saved you can use the > Windows key with semicolon and press enter on the revision choice. If you > follow the link to a revision you can read the revision. You can then use > the application key and the accept and reject revision choices will be > present. Press enter key on the appropriate choice. > > You can create a comment using the hotkey CTRL with Alt and M. If that > hotkey has been used by you for a different purpose then the New Comment > choice is under the review tab. You can list all comments in the document > by using CTRL with Shift and apostrophe. This will list all reviewer's > comments and you can arrow to the one you want to move to and press enter > key. Alt with Shift and apostrophe will read a comment at the cursor > position. You can list the comments and move to one and then delete either > that one or all in the document by choosing the review tab and tabbing to > the delete menu, which contains those choices. > > You can also use Windows key with semicolon and use the Footnote choice to > move to a footnote. Focus will go into the footnote pane but you can use > shift with function key 5 to move to your previous position in the document. > > > If you do any coauthoring you can set the status bar to show such things as > "number of authors editing", "track changes", and "document updates > available." > > When you move to a revision the contextual menu accessed by using the > application key gives choices for accepting or rejecting the revision. If > you use the Accept and Reject options frequently for revisions, you might > want to consider setting those options to hotkeys. The following steps can > be followed to set a hotkey for the "accept and move to next" action found > on the lower part of the ribbon under the review tab. > > 1. Press Alt followed by R followed by A to move focus to the Accept and > Move to Next option. > 2. Press the Application key or Shift+f10. (Right click with the mouse). > 3. Use up arrow key a couple times and press enter key on the "Customize > the Ribbon" menu item. > 4. Use tab key a couple of times to a list of commands and make sure that > the selected command is "Accept and Move to Next." > 5. Use tab key one more time to move to the Customize button and use the > spacebar. > 6. In the category list make sure you select the Review option. Press R in > the list of categories until that option is selected. > 7. Use tab key to the Commands list box. > 8. The first three options in the list have to do with accepting changes. > Use up or down arrow key to select the one you want to use with a hotkey. > 9. Use tab key one time to find out if there is a current key combination > applied to the command. If not, use tab key again to the edit box for the > new hotkey. > 10. Type in the hotkey combination. You might consider using > Alt+CTRL+Shift+A. Be sure to actually use the hotkey when entering what you > want to use in the edit box. In other words, hold down all three modifier > keys, press A and then release all keys. > 11. Use tab key one more time and choose if you want to use this key > combination in the normal template so it will be available in all new > documents based on the normal template. Arrow down one time in the Save In > combo box if you want your changes to only be for the current document. > 12. Use tab key and find the Assign button. Use spacebar on that button. > The new hotkey combination should appear in the list of currently assigned > keys. I have found that it sometimes takes a few seconds before showing in > the list. > 13. Use tab key to the Close button and use spacebar. > 14. Use tab key to the OK button and use spacebar. > > Brian Lee > > Take care. > Mike > Remember folks, it's tax time! If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T > H E I R S". That spells THEIRS! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jason White > To: Jaws-Users > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 8:45 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Change tracking in Microsoft Word > > > Hello JAWS users, > > I'm working with documents that contain tracked changes in Microsoft Word, > and > I need to ensure that my own changes are also tracked. I'm running JAWS 17 > with the latest update applied. > > For each change, is there a way to find out what the original text was and > what it was changed to? JAWS announces that I am in a revision, but not what > the change consists in. > > I also notice that the braille display sometimes presents both the original > text and the newly inserted text after a change is made, without any > indication of which is which - rather confusing. > > I don't normally use Microsoft Word as my writing tool, but in some cases > I'm > dealing with other peoples' documents or their well established review > practices based on MS-Word files, where comments and change tracking are > used > extensively. This kind of editing work stretches the limits of every screen > reader that I've tried, on every operating system. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
