Don't worry about it Mike, I understood from where it was you were coming
from last evening. 

Actually to me from my point of view his instructions were quite clear.
Think about it for a minute. Most people write out things with multiple
directions for each step. He wrote them out step by step in great detail. If
anybody out there owns a Victor Stream and received the directions from
Human ware on how to authorize for the NLS program. There are around 28
steps. That is because each item was broken down by itself. 

His program is very good and I hope to do it justice explaining how it
works. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS script install

Hi David & Cuong,

I didn't mean to sound unappreciative of Cuong's efforts & hard work, or to
say the program is not a great idea but, only to say that to a beginner
computer user not experienced with installing scripts for Jaws, the way it
was explained would be a little hard to follow.  I know that English is
Cuong's 2nd language, & he is doing his best to explain to many people whose
1st language is English & I have nothing but admiration for his efforts. 
When you, David,  post your tutorial, that everything will be explained in a
way that any level of Jaws / computer user will be able to fully follow &
understand.  Opinions were asked for, & I threw mine in but, if I came
across as sounding disparaging, that was not my intention.  I've been
following Cuong's posts on this list as well as other lists' for quite some
time, & Cuong, my hat is off to you!  You have helped the blind community in
many ways, & I can only say, thank you very very much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS script install


I hope to make it easier to understand when I get an audio file I am happy
enough with to post on the server.

It really is quite easy as I'm sure you will see once I walk through the
steps.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS script install

Hi David,

>From reading Cuong's earlier posts' I was under the impression that this
program was supposed to make it easier for someone that doesn't know how to
install scripts to install them, but after reading his steps from earlier
this morning, it sounds like this program will be harder to understand how
it works & use by the people it's supposedly made for, than learning where
to put scripts manually.  Here's the earlier post:

Hi
This is a short instruction I shared at other forum  I've developed an
application named Jaws Script Install using 7 zip, autoit and the Layout by
code written by Jamal Mazrui. People who are interesting can download at
http://tinyurl.com/h5ooggn  This helps people especially beginner of Jaws
install any script from a zip file. This program does the job very quickly.
I recommend you to create a folder, copy the programs into it then run
because it will extract some required files at the first time running.
 Now, just choose a zip file, and some options such as install for current
user or All user, Backup before replace, overwrite file if exists, recompile
script... then press the Install button. Program will close when completing
the installation. If check the backup before replace options, a zip filename
backup.zip will be created parallel the program executable file.
 This program can also work quicker and easier by adding shortcut itself to
Send to context menu. Just activate the create send to menufor that job. A
message box will tel you that you did it successfully. From now on, just
press the application key at a zip file you want, choose send to sub menu,
and choose Jaws Script install. Program will start with the selected zip
file added to Zip file field. Just choose other options you'd like, and
press the Install button.
 whenever you want to remove it from send to menu, press the Remove send
tomenu button.
 This program works very friendly with Jaws. I added some alert message when
it backup existing script, recompile etc. This make you monitor the progress
easily.
 I do this just because I'm self learning autoit, and some of my feature has
folowed by the Jaws Script Exchange written by Jamal afiew years ago. This
version have alot of things need to be fixed, such as code structure, even
the English text in it interface, so I'd love to recieve featbacks, or
feature request, in order to make it works better. When I release it, I'll
give a documentation.
 For the technical info, I develop this program using autoit script,
including layout by code library for creating it interface, SendTo library
for adding and removing send to menu shortcut, 7-zip for extracting and
backing up scripts before replacing.
 Hope this useful
 Cuong

I know that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I think that for
someone that doesn't know how or where to install Jaws scripts, trying to
follow the above steps, let alone run the installer would confuse them.
Personally I don't know if he's explaining how the script installer works
or, if these are steps someone is supposed to follow.  Just my 2 cents
worth.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS script install


Today's' version works as advertised, I'll be uploading it to the server in
just a couple of minutes. I fiddled with doing an audio this afternoon but
it just didn't come out right. I have not given up as I feel it is worth
doing.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.



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