Good to see you back at the keyboard... It seems this is where real
communication happens <g>
Justin Forder wrote:
> > Well, I had the impression that Rickard was considering putting someone
> > else's Tx manager back in. He didn't seem to have ruled the Jonas one
> > out completely, but there was another one he mentioned - perhaps the one
> > in Enhydra?
>
> My thoughts are to make our own. If I made it sound otherwise (I know
> that Marc mentioned JOnAS) that was not intentional. Any such decision
> would of course have to be taken by the board, but this is my opinion.
JOnAS was in jboss 1.0, not at all in jboss 2.0 for the reasons laid below
by Rickard
> Reasons:
> 1- I'm not at all convinced that a JTS-based tx manager (such as JOnAS)
> makes sense for a J2EE server. In CORBA perhaps, but not here.
I will agree. From the j2ee point of view the only API we really need to
confirm is JTA and that is a pretty simple one. The connector spec will
give us some additional requirements for the TX man but nothing too
complicated from what I remember. Finally XA is an aberation of legacy,
there I said it.
So these 3 reasons point towards a "spread your wings" implementation.
Forget legacy (JTS), go to the web (JTA).
> 2- We have extreme demands on flexibility. The JOnAS tx manager needs to
> be restructured to fit those needs
Well actually JTS provides a blueprint for the structure of the server. Our
interceptor based and plugin based architecture places other requirements.
Since JTS is not real for us, the needs of our architecture come first IMHO.
> 3- The JOnAS code is far from the cleanest I have seen (I know Marc, be
> nice, be nice, but anyway..)
;-) well, you know I meant be nice with people ON the list. That being said
I have respect for Gerard and his crew (and getting drunk together at J1
made that even stronger) but it is true that their code sometimes is hard to
follow. And you don't have to be nice all the time, I give you a green
light to go beat on the apache weenies ;-)
> So to be exact:
> I do expect that we will have to write a completely new transaction
> manager for jBoss. No biggie, and will pay off bigtime in the long run
> :-)
I also believe you have most of it in place Rickard. It just needs work,
but do you want to start from scratch?
marc
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