Hi
As a JBoss user, could not but feel that either side has points in their
favour. 'Cos, as far as interpretation of the GPL is concerned, it has been
noticed in the past that the GPL is, if not anything else, very complex to
interpret "in totality". There are wheels within wheels, so to speak.
As a die-hard JBoss fan, I would like to see JBoss become a top notch
development J2EE server (it already is) and someday, become a major
competitor for deployment purposes as well. Also, I would like to see it
stay that way.
It might actually be worthwhile, marc, (just to be 100% sure) to seek legal
counsel on this. Just to be *totally* safe.
In the interest of the JBoss development team.
In the interest of the JBoss users.
In the interest of the entire development community that's waiting to be
saved from Darth Weblogic and the rest of the dark side.
In the interest of Peace Love and Good Code!
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I also think that there are certain *other* OSS projects that have *very*
chauvinistic people. If you reply to that , whoever you are, you are
admitting to it, so don't even think about it. Just let it pass.
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Sandeep
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jBoss Developer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:15 PM
>To: jBoss Developer
>Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update
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>>In no way is the choice of license intended to prevent aggregation
>>with Tomcat, nor to the best of my knowledge does the board--or
>>the jBoss community in general--currently believe that this is the
>>result.
>
>well unfortunately this is most likely due to a lack of
>understanding of
>the GPL (coupled with the fact that your web pages makes some blatently
>wrong statements in regard to GPL). The best advice you can
>get is to see a
>qualified lawyer - or if that is too expensive email
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (or
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]). He will tell you what you are doing is
>wrong and why.
>
>>This sort of opinion is not like source code; we can't compile
>>it and see it run (or not). I'm sorry about that. But there it is.
>
>No - but you can get a bunch of lawyers to go over it. This
>has been done a
>number of times and at one stage the FSF actually had a lawyer
>on "staff" I
>believe. Instead of using this existing knowledge you have decided to
>reinterpret the GPL in a flawed way. It is not really anyones
>fault as the
>GPL is extremely difficult to understand for most people and
>not all the
>cases of GPL are stated explictly (but are a result of interpretation).
>
>Plain fact of the matter is that you violate the GPL in a
>number of ways
>and tomcat is just one minor example of such a violation. You
>may not care
>that your actions threaten the GPL but as GPL is IP of FSF they have a
>right to remove from you the ability to use their license.
>
>There is at least one company I know of that distributes jBoss
>(mycomponents.com) and you place them in treacherous waters.
>Again - you
>may not care about this but you should at least make this company aware
>that what you doing is illegal so they have the opportunity to
>not become
>liable.
>
>So all in all I really think the board (or whoever is major copyright
>holders on code) seek legal adice from a good lawyer. They are
>expensive
>(about $400AU an hour) but in the long run it is much less riskier. The
>longer you leave it the more difficult it becomes (as more
>people become
>copyright holders on jBoss) and the more expensive it can become.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Pete
>
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