I like the idea of teaming up with the paperclips. If they have something in the works already, and it will support Servlet 2.3 lifecycle and events, as well as pluggable session management, perhaps it would be best if we worked with them for Jetty as well, so we have a similar if not the same thing? Any objections to this? If not, I'll join their list as well and start discussing it with them.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Julian Gosnell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill Burke
Subject: Re: [jetty-discuss] Re: Persistant HttpSession


Guys,

I think it is valuable to consider many different implementations of
session - even bad ones, so we get a good flexible session manager
implementation.

Remember that when we look at session persistance and session distribution
mechanism - lots of class loader issues will start cropping up.  So even
if a EJB based persistent session proves to be horribly inefficient - it
would be a good test of the session classloading to share the classloader
of JBoss etc.

But when it comes to production quality session management - I don't think
we want to invent the whole wheel ourselves and we should build on
the work of others.

A few other things of note here - so we get the abstract model of a
session manager right - we should have a good look at other containers.

Gnu-paperclips for one is working towards pluggable session managers and
I have talked to them before about sharing session managers between
jetty and paperclips.   So it would be good if we had a very very similar
API so we could just borrow (and donate) session managers.   Thus it
would be worthwhile for folks to have a look at what they have done.

Secondly, the 2.3 servlet API has lots of session lefecycle and event
support in it.   So when we abstract the session manager - we should
build in support for those lifecycles.  Thus a quick read of the
2.3 servlet spec is in order.

I'm a little head down bum up at the moment to think about all this
in detail.   What I plan is to concentrate on getting a 3.1.0 out
in the next week or two.  Then immediately start a 3.2.A0 stream in
which we can break out the session manager and start playing with this
stuff.

cheers



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