I really don't know enough about it to comment intelligently.  However,
presumably this wiki would be run on one of the jboss.org boxes, so it
would already have jboss + a database running.  I really don't know whether
the perl wikis have any security vulnerabilities.  It also seems like good
advertising and a reasonable test to run one on jboss, whereas a bit odd
not to.  But, I have about 30 minutes experience running a wiki, so I
really don't know what I'm talking about here.

david jencks

On 2002.03.15 08:13:54 -0500 Matt Humphrey wrote:
> Other than the fact that it would be cool, what's the reason for a J2EE
> Wiki? This *REALLY* limits you, adds a great deal of resources to the
> server, and restricts the environments in which you can run. The
> Perl-based Wikis work great, have more features, require less resources,
> will run on virtually every Unix box out there with little or no
> additional software installation, and should easily handle the traffic
> that would be generated here.
> 
> Just my 2 cents worth.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> David Jencks
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> 
> 
> I think it would take someone locating or writing a j2ee based wiki that
> works fine on jboss/jetty, demonstrating it somewhere, and getting marc
> to say "that looks good, lets do it"
> 
> I played with veryquickwiki for a little while, which seemed to work
> fine, but it is file based and may not be terribly robust (I have no
> evidence it isn't, but it is so simple!!).  There are some other j2ee
> wikis: I don't know if any support saving history in a db, which I think
> would be useful.
> 
> david jencks
> 
> On 2002.03.14 23:51:36 -0500 Jeff Tulley wrote:
> > What would it take to get a wiki up and running?  I think that is a 
> > very good idea.  It is worth experimenting with, anyway.  Something 
> > like that is incremental and if the right categories were created, 
> > people would have a place to quickly contribute without having to be a
> 
> > committer.  I like the idea.  Then some of that could probably be 
> > organized and funnelled into a formal doc, if we decide it would be 
> > better, but even if that never happened, what the heck, it would still
> 
> > be pretty good.
> > 
> > Jeff Tulley  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > (801)861-5322
> > Novell, Inc., the leading provider of Net business solutions 
> > http://www.novell.com
> > >>> David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/14/02 18:12 PM 
> > >>> >>>
> > On 2002.03.14 19:11:13 -0500 Mac Rinehart wrote:
> > 
> > For what its worth I think the best format for something like this 
> > would be a wiki, so that updating it doesn't need to involve cvs 
> > commits and rebuilding the website.  Ideal would be a version 
> > controlled j2ee wiki running in jboss/jetty;-)  Marc hasn't been 
> > thrilled yet with this idea (user howto wiki), but probably if someone
> 
> > made it happen his attitude might change.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > david jencks
> > > 
> > > Mac Rinehart, President
> > > Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc
> > > 
> > > Legal stuff: SEXTANT TECHNOLOGY CONSULTING is a trademark of Sextant
> 
> > > Technology Consulting, Inc. Any agreement to render services by Mac 
> > > Rinehart and/or Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc. is contingent 
> > > upon an agreement
> > > in writing and signed by all interested parties.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > David
> > > Jencks
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ummm....
> > > In your previous post you wrote
> > > "I've seen a lot of
> > > complaints
> > > in the forums regarding the same issues in the documentation for 
> > > sale
> > -
> > > probably the only reason I haven't laid down my 10 spot yet. " ...
> > > "And if I were going to pay for
> > > documentation, I don't want a print document that's going to be out
> of
> > > date
> > > in two weeks. "
> > > 
> > > A couple of minutes of investigation would have revealed that the 
> > > for
> > pay
> > > 2.4.4 documentation you are declining to buy so as to, perhaps, show
> > your
> > > support of JBoss and encourage the developers to write more 
> > > documentation, is the exact same book that you are applauding at 
> > > Amazon:
> > > 
> > > http://www.jboss.org/doco.jsp
> > > 
> > > "In order to support the development of JBoss and ensure that the 
> > > documentation remains up to date, we offer a PDF version of the 
> > > JBoss book to be published by SAMS publishing. "
> > > 
> > > Following the link also brings you to the Comperehensive 
> > > Documentation Subscription at the very top of the page, really hard 
> > > to miss.
> > > 
> > > david jencks
> > > 
> > > On 2002.03.14 17:50:27 -0500 Mac Rinehart wrote:
> > > > Another reason for different versions of the documentation for
> > > different
> > > > releases. The fact is that some people - particularly risk 
> > > > conscious corporate users - will continue to use 2.4 and not jump 
> > > > to 3.0 until another rev or two are out the door.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding Open source friendly tech writers - I think that could
> > work,
> > > > but
> > > > it's got to take a little formal organization from the inside too.
> 
> > > > I
> > > can
> > > > see
> > > > tech writers donating their writing services, but they probably
> > would
> > > > like
> > > > to have some established procedures for how to access information,
> > > style
> > > > conventions and the like. I see that they sort of information is 
> > > > available for developers, I haven't seen it for tech writers 
> > > > (which doesn't
> > mean
> > > > much
> > > > since I've only been following things actively for a couple of
> > weeks).
> > > >
> > > > I would provide some tech writing services pro-bono, but
> > establishing a
> > > > procedure for getting the documentation in place is something that
> > > takes
> > > > a
> > > > little organization. What's the status on JBoss Group's process 
> > > > for developing administration and user documentation?
> > > >
> > > > And BTW, this seems to be a good opportunity for plugging "JBoss 
> > > > Administration & Development", coming out on March 22 and doing
> > > excellent
> > > > on
> > > > sales at Amazon already! Congrats. How does the book do in terms 
> > > > of covering version 3?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mac Rinehart, President
> > > > Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc
> > > >
> > > > Legal stuff: SEXTANT TECHNOLOGY CONSULTING is a trademark of 
> > > > Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc. Any agreement to render 
> > > > services by Mac Rinehart and/or Sextant Technology Consulting, 
> > > > Inc. is contingent upon an agreement
> > > > in writing and signed by all interested parties.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:42 PM
> > > > To: Mac Rinehart
> > > > Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists. 
> > > > Sourceforge. Net
> > > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't always lag - sometimes it's too eager!  Example: I had 
> > > > a gripe that 2.4 documentation started disappering off the web 
> > > > site,
> > > being
> > > > replaced with 3.0 documentation when 3.0 was only alpha.  I think
> > that
> > > > the 2.4 docs should stay available online - at least until 3.x 
> > > > goes final.
> > > >
> > > > Mac Rinehart wrote:
> > > > > The free user documentation is only moderately useful, and lags 
> > > > > behind development on a number of issues.
> > > >
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