Or perhaps I am not using the JMS resource propertly within the bean... 

Should I be able to save a QueueSession and QueueSender as fields and use them 
over multipule calls inside of a SFSB?  Or do I need to recreate the session 
and sender each time?

If that is the case it rather sucks... what a pain...

--jason


On Friday 24 May 2002 12:22 am, Jason Dillon wrote:
> After thinking about this somemore, and enabling thread info in server.log
> I realize now that the timer is not an issue, there is never an instance
> where the timer thread attempts to use the wrapper over the SFSB... the
> work completes too fast.
>
> And due to the fact that I sync'd the wrapper methods it appears that this
> problem happens simply because the invoke happened in a seperate thread.
>
> Unfortunatly it does not really narrow the problem space to debug.  The JMS
> RA does not function with out a TX, it does not attempt to start one if
> there isn't one already... so it just fails.
>
> Is it possible that there is something a miss with the bits which setup the
> tx for the SFSB?  Or would I see other problems when the SFSB commits... I
> think this is the case, but I am not sure.
>
> If that is true, and the SFSB does have a TX, then it must be the JMS RA or
> JBossMQ which is at fault... and I don't really know how to isolate which
> it is at this point.  If I don't use the JMS RA, then I have to implement
> all of the XA stuff myself, which I am sure to mess up.
>
> Any clue on how I could narrow the problem space any?
>
> I am running the same test again with trace enabled for org.jboss.mq and
> org.jboss.resource.adapter.jms.  With the added log messages for the JMS RA
> I might be able to see a problem... but who knows.
>
> --jason
>
> On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:26 pm, Scott M Stark wrote:
> > If the only cause of this can be use by multiple threads, then updating
> > the error message to indicate incorrect usage would be good.
> >
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Scott Stark
> > Chief Technology Officer
> > JBoss Group, LLC
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Dillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Scott M Stark"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Seeing occasional Invalid tx id with JMS RA
> >
> >
> > Does this mean we should not try to produce more meaningful error
> > messages when this does happen... or just leave it as is?
> >
> > --jason
> >
> > On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:00 pm, Scott M Stark wrote:
> > > I don't see sufficient justification to go beyond the spec here so
> > > let's just leave it.
> > >
> > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Scott Stark
> > > Chief Technology Officer
> > > JBoss Group, LLC
> > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hiram Chirino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:45 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Seeing occasional Invalid tx id with JMS RA
> > >
> > > > He who codes wins the vote.  This issue does not bother me enough to
> > >
> > > change
> > >
> > > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Hiram
> > > >
> > > > >From: David Maplesden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Seeing occasional Invalid tx id with JMS RA
> > > > >Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:35:21 +1200
> > > > >
> > > > >I understand the pros and cons, I am just saying what I feel.  You
> > > > > can outvote me if you wish.
> > > > >
> > > > >David
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Hiram Chirino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Seeing occasional Invalid tx id with JMS
> > > > > > RA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Think about it this way...  somebody creates a simple servlet
> > > > > > that creates a
> > > > > > unit of work by sending 2 messages and then commits the work.
> > > > > >  Somebody that
> > > > > > does not know the spec to will might cache that session in a
> >
> > instance
> >
> > > > > > variable.  If 2 requests come in at the same time, they will
> > > > > > screw each
> > > > > > other up seriously.  The first request might commit his 2
> > > > > > messages and some
> > > > > > of the messages the 2nd thread was creating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So the question is, should we try to make the session
> > > > > > thread-safe for the
> > > > > > power users out there that MIGHT know how stuff is working
> > > > > > under the covers.
> > > > > >   Or should we make the session check conncurent access better to
> >
> > let
> >
> > > > > > beginer user know when he has potentialy made a semantical error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Hiram
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: David Maplesden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Seeing occasional Invalid tx id with
> > > > > > > JMS
> >
> > RA
> >
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:36:43 +1200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I hate to disagree with Scott and Hiram but I feel that just
> > > > > >
> > > > > > because the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >spec says Sessions should only be used in 1 thread does not
> > > > > >
> > > > > > neccessarily
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >mean that we should restrict their usage as such.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I know a Session only makes sense in the context of a single
> > > > > >
> > > > > > process, but
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >this might still entail the usage of a couple of different
> > > > > >
> > > > > > threads.  I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >don't
> > > > > > >think we should place any restrictions on the usage of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sessions as long as
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >they work, and I believe making sendMessage() synchronized
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will do the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >trick.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >This can be just one more area where JBoss goes "Beyond the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spec" but hey I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >leave the final decision up to someone else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >David.
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