what is the zend engine?

marcf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
> Behalf Of julien viet
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:27 PM
> To: Holger Baxmann
> Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
> 
> 
> I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct 
> DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP 
> db functions would be mapped to JDBC.
> 
> The problem is not PHP, it's the way PHP guys code.
> 
> Anyway that would be a great project and could attract many 
> developpers onto J2EE platform.
> 
> There do not exists a PHP specification. Such a project would 
> consist in retro engineering there compiler. In fact I don't 
> know anything about zend and their licence, though project is 
> hosted by apache.
> 
> Here is the header they use in sourecode :
> 
> /*
>    
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------+
>    | Zend Engine                                              
>             |
>    
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------+
>    | Copyright (c) 1998-2002 Zend Technologies Ltd. 
> (http://www.zend.com) |
>    
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------+
>    | This source file is subject to version 2.00 of the Zend 
> license,     |
>    | that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE, 
> and is        | 
>    | available at through the world-wide-web at               
>             |
>    | http://www.zend.com/license/2_00.txt.                    
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>    
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------+
>    | Authors: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                    
>             |
>    |          Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                    
>             |
>    
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------+
> */
> 
> 
> 
> HB> anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the 
> HB> cms-whatever-this-is
> HB> thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the 
> zend engine natively?
> 
> HB> layer rules ...
> 
> HB> just an idea ..
> 
> HB> bax
> 
> >> Von: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Datum: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:34:10 -0500
> >> An: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Betreff: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
> >> 
> >> IWE.  Go Go Julien Viet!
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
> Behalf Of 
> >>> Matt Munz
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:16 PM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Marc & group,
> >>> 
> >>>   Thanks for the details.
> >>> 
> >>>> We tried to rewrite
> >>>> the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the 
> >>>> publishing framework getting in the way.
> >>>   
> >>>   My good friend Google just explained "CMS publishing" 
> to me, and I 
> >>> think I understand the issue.  It is not PHP vs. J2EE, 
> but Post-Nuke 
> >>> vs. a J2EE-based CMS that apparently DNE.
> >>> 
> >>>   Not the best situation...
> >>> 
> >>>   - Matt
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Bill,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not "eating your own 
> >>>> dog food".
> >>> 
> >>> you should.    
> >>> 
> >>>>> JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content
> >>>> Management
> >>>>> System.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using J2EE 
> >>>> instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge the precise
> >>>> reason(s) for choosing Post-Nuke? (I can think of many 
> factors that 
> >>>> often outweigh technical superiority -- time, money, 
> expedience, IP 
> >>>> issues... was it one of these?)
> >>> 
> >>> the real reason is that the APPLICATION IS THERE.  We tried to 
> >>> rewrite the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever 
> due to the 
> >>> publishing framework getting in the way.  The problem we have is 
> >>> that PostNuke is a bunch of PHP files with direct DB access in it 
> >>> and we are having scalability nightmares.  Our machine used to be 
> >>> 15% utilization max (slashdot was 50%) due TO THE CACHES 
> IN JBOSS.  
> >>> And without it, we have 100 people on the website and the 
> machine is 
> >>> pegged.
> >>> 
> >>> So the application is there so we use it.  We need it 
> NOW.  Julien 
> >>> viet, who was writing the forums, is now on JBoss payroll 
> and will 
> >>> be working on JNUKE. A straight port of PHP functionality 
> to JBoss. 
> >>> PHP is ugly and functional, my kind of code but at the end of the 
> >>> day it doesn't scale well at all due to all the crap they 
> do.  EJB 
> >>> are good things :)
> >>> 
> >>> Peace,
> >>> 
> >>> marcf
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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