the php 'vm' bax
> Von: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Datum: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:31:26 -0500 > An: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Betreff: RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP > > what is the zend engine? > > marcf > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On >> Behalf Of julien viet >> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:27 PM >> To: Holger Baxmann >> Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP >> >> >> I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct >> DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP >> db functions would be mapped to JDBC. >> >> The problem is not PHP, it's the way PHP guys code. >> >> Anyway that would be a great project and could attract many >> developpers onto J2EE platform. >> >> There do not exists a PHP specification. Such a project would >> consist in retro engineering there compiler. In fact I don't >> know anything about zend and their licence, though project is >> hosted by apache. >> >> Here is the header they use in sourecode : >> >> /* >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------+ >> | Zend Engine >> | >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------+ >> | Copyright (c) 1998-2002 Zend Technologies Ltd. >> (http://www.zend.com) | >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------+ >> | This source file is subject to version 2.00 of the Zend >> license, | >> | that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE, >> and is | >> | available at through the world-wide-web at >> | >> | http://www.zend.com/license/2_00.txt. >> | >> | If you did not receive a copy of the Zend license and >> are unable to | >> | obtain it through the world-wide-web, please send a note >> to | >> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can mail you a copy immediately. >> | >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------+ >> | Authors: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> | >> | Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> | >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------+ >> */ >> >> >> >> HB> anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the >> HB> cms-whatever-this-is >> HB> thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the >> zend engine natively? >> >> HB> layer rules ... >> >> HB> just an idea .. >> >> HB> bax >> >>>> Von: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Datum: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:34:10 -0500 >>>> An: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Betreff: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>> >>>> IWE. Go Go Julien Viet! >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >> Behalf Of >>>>> Matt Munz >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:16 PM >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marc & group, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the details. >>>>> >>>>>> We tried to rewrite >>>>>> the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the >>>>>> publishing framework getting in the way. >>>>> >>>>> My good friend Google just explained "CMS publishing" >> to me, and I >>>>> think I understand the issue. It is not PHP vs. J2EE, >> but Post-Nuke >>>>> vs. a J2EE-based CMS that apparently DNE. >>>>> >>>>> Not the best situation... >>>>> >>>>> - Matt >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bill, >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not "eating your own >>>>>> dog food". >>>>> >>>>> you should. >>>>> >>>>>>> JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content >>>>>> Management >>>>>>> System. >>>>>> >>>>>> This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using J2EE >>>>>> instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge the precise >>>>>> reason(s) for choosing Post-Nuke? (I can think of many >> factors that >>>>>> often outweigh technical superiority -- time, money, >> expedience, IP >>>>>> issues... was it one of these?) >>>>> >>>>> the real reason is that the APPLICATION IS THERE. We tried to >>>>> rewrite the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever >> due to the >>>>> publishing framework getting in the way. The problem we have is >>>>> that PostNuke is a bunch of PHP files with direct DB access in it >>>>> and we are having scalability nightmares. Our machine used to be >>>>> 15% utilization max (slashdot was 50%) due TO THE CACHES >> IN JBOSS. >>>>> And without it, we have 100 people on the website and the >> machine is >>>>> pegged. >>>>> >>>>> So the application is there so we use it. We need it >> NOW. Julien >>>>> viet, who was writing the forums, is now on JBoss payroll >> and will >>>>> be working on JNUKE. A straight port of PHP functionality >> to JBoss. >>>>> PHP is ugly and functional, my kind of code but at the end of the >>>>> day it doesn't scale well at all due to all the crap they >> do. EJB >>>>> are good things :) >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> >>>>> marcf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >> Something 2 See! >>>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld >>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >> Something 2 See! >>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>> >> >> >> >> HB> ------------------------------------------------------- >> HB> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >> HB> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >> Something 2 See! >> HB> http://www.vasoftware.com >> HB> _______________________________________________ >> HB> Jboss-development mailing list >> HB> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> HB> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> julien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en >> français ! 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