I agree that there is some great stuff in there already.  However, being
that the AOP transaction, security, remoting, etc. was only recently
released in its first iteration, and the fact that JBoss remoting
doesn't yet support true callbacks (Jeff says it is coming) there is
simply no way I can deliver the new JMS implementation BUILT ON TOP of
these services by May 5th!  And I'm going to be out basically two weeks
between now and then with customers as I know others will be as well.

Since the whole point of the JMS rewrite is to take advantage of the
core JBoss AOP services, I haven't really had that much time to do so
since the services have only recently been released.  Therefore, I
expect that a May 26th release will ONLY INCLUDE THE OLD JMS CODE which
is currently in HEAD.  It is the only option with a May 5th deadline in
my opinion.  If everyone is OK with this and we're committed to that
date, then I am must immediately shift my attention from the development
of the new code build on top of the AOP framework to the old code
currently in HEAD to start working on ensuring JMS 1.1 compliance,
stability, etc. as well as applying the HTTP IL code currently only in
Branch_3_2 to HEAD.   Then, after the May 26th release, I'll continue
working on the new JMS code which is build on top of the AOP framework.

Comments?

Thanks,

Nathan


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Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26

There's already a lot we can release.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Dain
> Sundstrom
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26
> 
> 
> I think you are delusional if you think JB4 will be ready for JavaOne.
> 
> -dain
> 
> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 02:47 PM, marc fleury wrote:
> 
> > Guys,
> >
> > We are thinking a lot about the forthcoming JB4 release.  It is a
truly
> > exciting step for us as we believe we will bring a programming
style,
> > whose time has come, to a mass audience.
> >
> > AOP as Bill says is a clear wave for system level services on par
with
> > OOP.  On top of it and also as a proof of how powerful the approach
is
> > we still develop a full J2EE server.  Meaning that you can choose to
> > live in the J2EE world work on JBoss J2EE and access all the 
> > prepackaged
> > AOP goodies as you have been doing since JBoss2.0.
> >
> > There seems to be a lot of fear at SUN from what I can tell in the
> > press, that we will abandon J2EE.  We love J2EE. When really we will
> > support J2EE for the forthcoming future.  Never do we talk about
> > "abandoning" J2EE, we just let the user access core functionality in

> > the
> > open server and think at the AOP level.  A more fundamental
construct 
> > of
> > the framework.
> >
> > The reason we are almost there is that it is also a very old
> > implementation in JBoss.  We have been doing it for a long time but
> > never talked/packaged it this way.  We make it easy for you to
leverage
> > the AOP layer. The implementation is old the way you interact with 
> > JBoss
> > is new.  It can also be old if you decide to stay at the J2EE level
> > which will be fully supported.
> >
> > But you are now invited to roam in the core JBoss system, in fact
you
> > may find it very cozy as you port POJO based applications to JBoss.
> > There will be a stabilization period though.  We are making an
> > aggressive push to release JB4 by JavaONE with all our resources
> > dedicated to implementing the final AOP system aspects and porting
some
> > of the existing code to that.
> >
> > We're making an aggressive push to release JBoss 4.0 by JavaOne.
We're
> > targeting May 26th. That leaves us 2 month from now.
> >
> > I REPEAT TARGET FOR JBOSS4.0 DR1   **** MAY 26TH****
> >
> >
> > To meet this aggressive deadline, we need to set some dates.  There 
> > will
> > be a functionality freeze, Monday, May 5th.  All new functionality
> > commits after May 5th must be approved by either Scott Stark, or
Bill
> > Burke.  We will not branch May 5th, but instead make the month of
May,
> > JBoss 4.0 stability en route to a Developpers Release 1 (DR1).
> >
> > Please think long and hard and fast about your modules.  Many of you

> > are
> > involved in core modules that need to move fast in the coming weeks.
> > Don't be afraid to talk and say who needs help etc.
> >
> > PLgC
> >
> > marcf
> >
> >
> >
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Marc Fleury, Ph.D.
> > President, Founder
> > JBoss Group, LLC
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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