I'm ok with JMS. I didn't think you could rewrite in such short of time. Especially with Remoting and AOP just now becoming stable. I think this email thread is good because it will allow us to determine whether or not we can release. I still think there is enough functionality.
Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Nathan Phelps > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26 > > > > I agree that there is some great stuff in there already. However, being > that the AOP transaction, security, remoting, etc. was only recently > released in its first iteration, and the fact that JBoss remoting > doesn't yet support true callbacks (Jeff says it is coming) there is > simply no way I can deliver the new JMS implementation BUILT ON TOP of > these services by May 5th! And I'm going to be out basically two weeks > between now and then with customers as I know others will be as well. > > Since the whole point of the JMS rewrite is to take advantage of the > core JBoss AOP services, I haven't really had that much time to do so > since the services have only recently been released. Therefore, I > expect that a May 26th release will ONLY INCLUDE THE OLD JMS CODE which > is currently in HEAD. It is the only option with a May 5th deadline in > my opinion. If everyone is OK with this and we're committed to that > date, then I am must immediately shift my attention from the development > of the new code build on top of the AOP framework to the old code > currently in HEAD to start working on ensuring JMS 1.1 compliance, > stability, etc. as well as applying the HTTP IL code currently only in > Branch_3_2 to HEAD. Then, after the May 26th release, I'll continue > working on the new JMS code which is build on top of the AOP framework. > > Comments? > > Thanks, > > Nathan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill > Burke > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26 > > There's already a lot we can release. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Dain > > Sundstrom > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:01 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26 > > > > > > I think you are delusional if you think JB4 will be ready for JavaOne. > > > > -dain > > > > On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 02:47 PM, marc fleury wrote: > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > We are thinking a lot about the forthcoming JB4 release. It is a > truly > > > exciting step for us as we believe we will bring a programming > style, > > > whose time has come, to a mass audience. > > > > > > AOP as Bill says is a clear wave for system level services on par > with > > > OOP. On top of it and also as a proof of how powerful the approach > is > > > we still develop a full J2EE server. Meaning that you can choose to > > > live in the J2EE world work on JBoss J2EE and access all the > > > prepackaged > > > AOP goodies as you have been doing since JBoss2.0. > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of fear at SUN from what I can tell in the > > > press, that we will abandon J2EE. We love J2EE. When really we will > > > support J2EE for the forthcoming future. Never do we talk about > > > "abandoning" J2EE, we just let the user access core functionality in > > > > the > > > open server and think at the AOP level. A more fundamental > construct > > > of > > > the framework. > > > > > > The reason we are almost there is that it is also a very old > > > implementation in JBoss. We have been doing it for a long time but > > > never talked/packaged it this way. We make it easy for you to > leverage > > > the AOP layer. The implementation is old the way you interact with > > > JBoss > > > is new. It can also be old if you decide to stay at the J2EE level > > > which will be fully supported. > > > > > > But you are now invited to roam in the core JBoss system, in fact > you > > > may find it very cozy as you port POJO based applications to JBoss. > > > There will be a stabilization period though. We are making an > > > aggressive push to release JB4 by JavaONE with all our resources > > > dedicated to implementing the final AOP system aspects and porting > some > > > of the existing code to that. > > > > > > We're making an aggressive push to release JBoss 4.0 by JavaOne. > We're > > > targeting May 26th. That leaves us 2 month from now. > > > > > > I REPEAT TARGET FOR JBOSS4.0 DR1 **** MAY 26TH**** > > > > > > > > > To meet this aggressive deadline, we need to set some dates. There > > > will > > > be a functionality freeze, Monday, May 5th. All new functionality > > > commits after May 5th must be approved by either Scott Stark, or > Bill > > > Burke. We will not branch May 5th, but instead make the month of > May, > > > JBoss 4.0 stability en route to a Developpers Release 1 (DR1). > > > > > > Please think long and hard and fast about your modules. Many of you > > > > are > > > involved in core modules that need to move fast in the coming weeks. > > > Don't be afraid to talk and say who needs help etc. > > > > > > PLgC > > > > > > marcf > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Marc Fleury, Ph.D. > > > President, Founder > > > JBoss Group, LLC > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > > > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > > > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated > server > > > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Jboss-development mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Jboss-development mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! 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