Bill,

We've been trying to get an install of Weblogic51 up and running for 4
months! BEA has as of yet been unable to get it run either. They finally
admitted that they have a SERIOUS problem with windows and clustering. On
jBoss I could just go into the code and fix or turn off the feature that is
causing the problem. Can't do that with Weblogic. I am sick and tired of
Weblogic and am just about ready to call Gemstone up and tell them to get in
here and fix BEA's mess. I will say at this point, DO ANYTHING BUT PURCHASE
WEBLOGIC! I feel that it is MORE risk than using jBoss!

We are running jBoss in a test environment and are investigating using it on
small standalone j2ee applications.

Mica Cooper

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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] I need ammo.


Peter,

We're not in production yet, but we are in beta.  We originally started
working and developing with Weblogic 5.1 about a year ago and actually
went into beta with it.  Recently, about a month ago, because of serious
budgetary constraints, we ported from Weblogic to JBoss and have been
using it ever since.  Now, budgetary constraints have been lifted and
upper management is thinking of going back to using Weblogic.  I have
been fighting furiously against this.  Not only do I think that JBoss
could potentially become a superior product(in many ways, it already
is!), but IMHO, OpenSource has serious long term advantages that can't
be overlooked.

In the meantime, I'm keeping a parallel nightly build going with
Weblogic so that if we need to (or if forced to :-( ),  we can switch
back to WebLogic.

IMHO, I think we would be an incredible testimonial for JBoss, not only
because of the scale of our application, but also because we moved from
Weblogic.

Regards,
Bill

Peter Routtier-Wone wrote:

> You're a pearl, Bill. This is exactly the sort of stuff I need for the
promo
> material I'm preparing - unsolicited from-the-trenches testimonial.
>
> It may  help to point out to your employers that they have no guarantees
> from the other container providers, and that JBoss gives them the ability
to
> rescue themselves, which the other vendors don't.
>
> Point out that official support just means vested interest in maintaining
> customer loyalty, and that if they want evidence of vested interest Marc F
> has bet the farm on the success of JBoss.
>
> If anyone can furnish either medium to large testimonial for Bill's use
then
> I would also appreciate a copy.
>
> If not a production app, what about benchmark figures? TPc?
>
> Bill, would it help to remind your PHB that you can always switch to
another
> container?
>
>
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