On 2001.11.01 05:43:23 -0500 Carsten Rhod Gregersen wrote: > > >reread david's mail > > It doesn't change anything... > > It is not possible to both put the interfaces in the > lib/ext for the mbean server to see, AND in the packaging > of ejb's where the sessionbeans need it to comunicate with > the entitybeans. > > The server makes all kind's of problems when trying to do this.
I haven't seen this: can you be specific about what the problems are? david jencks > > Maybe I'm doing something wrong... that's still a posibility.. > Please give me a hint ... if I am I'll gladly try anything you > mention... trust me it's not much. > > Right now, we have thrown away the mbeam approach and coded the > server to be fully external. This way everything works perfectly. > The server has now both a mainstart interface (for startup on > command line) and a mbeanstart interface. Starting it up > on the command line works perfectly, when I try to put it > to work as a mbean, the deployment of the ejbeans goes bazuka. > > If you don't think this is a bug or at all strange, that's ok. > (And that's what I hear you say right now) > I'll code my own wrapper that makes so the remote and home > interfaces in the mbean package does not conflict > with their precense in the ejb.jar package. Been there, done that. > (and it's allready been solved in the "tomcatmbean") > > But if this is a bug to be corrected, I of course will not waste > my time on such an effort... > > /Carsten > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury > Sent: 1. november 2001 00:24 > To: Carsten Rhod Gregersen; David Jencks; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] Mbean classloader bug ! > > > reread david's mail > > marcf > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carsten Rhod > |Gregersen > |Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 5:49 PM > |To: David Jencks; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] Mbean classloader bug ! > | > | > |Hej David, > | > |Sorry, by either I do not understand you, or I my earlier posts > |was inprecise. > | > |Yes, the mbean should be able to see the interfaces, no doubt.. > |It's a client just like anyone else... > | > |But hello... I'm not saying that you should put the implementation > |in the mbean path... I'm saying that it should be posible to > |both put the interfaces in the mbean.jar and in the ejb.jar > | > |But the problem arises if you put the interfaces in the lib/ext > |somehow together with the mbean. > | > |Jboss will then go bazuka if you also put them together with the > |ejbclasses (implementation)... And this I find to be a problem. > | > |For example sessionbeans mostly need to see the remote and home > |interface of certain entity beans. Therefore I will need to > |package an application in one way if I use some of the interfaces > |from an mbean, and another way if I dont.... > | > |This, I find wrong... my 2 øre :-) > | > |/Carsten > | > | > |-----Original Message----- > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Jencks > |Sent: 31. oktober 2001 23:17 > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Mbean classloader bug ! > | > | > |This is as it should be, IMHO. the mbeans are part of the server, the > ejb > |interfaces are by default part of the application. Why should the > server > |be able to see the application classes? The application classes can see > the > |server classes, but not vice versa. If you want the server to use > |application classes, put those in the "server classpath", namely lib.ext > | > |david jencks > | > |On 2001.10.31 14:57:54 -0500 Carsten Rhod Gregersen wrote: > |> Hi, > |> > |> From what I've heard so far, I'm pretty sure that there's > |> a bug in the Mbean classloader. Everybody that has gotten > |> mbean's to interact with the container does it via this method: > |> > |> 1. Put interfaces in the mbean jar files > |> 2. Put the rest in the ejb files... > |> > |> This is wrong aprocedure is it not ? > |> Normally you package both the implementation AND the interfaces > |> and deploy them into the container, or ??? > |> > |> Still as I say, I will look into it if necesarry, but if > |> the container is allready acting as it should (e.g. pr specification > |> of mbeans), I would just be wasting my time.... (and we can't > |> have that :-) > |> > |> My wish would be that each mbean gets it's own classloader, > |> or that you at least could specify the ones that should be loaded > without > |> interfering with other lib/ext jar's or ejb packages. > |> This way we would not get all the classloading conflicts... > |> > |> /Carsten > |> > |> -----Original Message----- > |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carsten > Rhod > |> Gregersen > |> Sent: 31. oktober 2001 17:15 > |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] Mbean using the home and remote beans - > |> classloader bug in mbeans ? > |> > |> > |> Hi, > |> > |> I actually think we can do that too... > |> But that's a hack... isn't it ? > |> You package ONLY the bean implementation in the > |> ear file, and that is not correct as to the ejb > |> standard where you have to package both the remote > |> homes and beans together, or am I wrong ? > |> > |> /Carsten > |> > |> -----Original Message----- > |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sternagel > |> Annegret (PN-SYS/PE) > |> Sent: 31. oktober 2001 15:05 > |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Mbean using the home and remote beans - > |> classloader bug in mbeans ? > |> > |> > |> I don't know if this will help You ... > |> > |> We are using jboss 2.4.3 (standalone) on Windows NT / 2000 > |> and we access Stateful SessionBeans in a MBean using reflection. > |> We package our Home and Remote-interfaces in a separate jar-file > |> in jboss\lib\ext and deploy only the bean implementation and *.xml in > the > |> bean jar-file. > |> This works fine for us. > |> > |> Annegret > |> > |> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > |> Von: Carsten Rhod Gregersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2001 09:14 > |> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> Betreff: [JBoss-user] Mbean using the home and remote beans - > |> classloader bug in mbeans ? > |> > |> > |> > |> Hi, > |> > |> I've asked this question before, I'll try again. > |> > |> The setup is: > |> - JBoss-2.4.3_Tomcat-3.2.3.zip > |> - JDK 1.3 > |> - Linux Redhat 6.2 > |> > |> We're programming an ejb application, everythings is ok as regard > |> to normal use of the EJB facilities in jboss (we have servlets and > |> jsp's using the programmed ejb's) > |> > |> But when we're trying to incoporate a mbean based server within the > |> jboss server, which should be ok regarding the documentation (?), > |> everything goes bazuka.. > |> > |> The wish is to have the server listens for incomming telnet > |> connections to a TCP/IP port, where users can do some command > |> based admin stuff on the container managed beans. The mbean > |> configuration, > |> port listening, parsing, and all, works fine. The problems start when > |> we try to contact the EJB server. > |> > |> We have alot of problems regarding classloading of the home and > |> remote interfaces classloading within the Mbean. The classloading > |> seems to be conflicting with the container classloading. > |> > |> It might be a setup problem, but I really doubt it. We're not new > |> to EJB programming, but ok who's errorfree :-), and we have tried > |> to set it up in all kind of ways. > |> > |> We have solved the problem by coding it as an external server... > |> but that I find to be a temporary solution, since it's has to use > |> RMI instead of inprocess call's. Also we have to two processes instead > |> of one... alot of things can go wrong :-) > |> > |> Is the given usage possible ?, e.g. should I be able to contact beans > |> put in the EJB server from an Mbean ? > |> > |> If so, has anyone managed with jboss 2.4.3 ?, > |> > |> If not I'll gladly debug it ... but as long as I don't know > |> if it is a possible scheme I'll rather not spend time on it. > |> > |> > |> mvh, > |> Carsten Rhod Gregersen, M.Sc. 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