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hi Edson, you are right in your conclusion, but i said before: this discussion on leaving the mailing list untouched is quite old. A lot of email has been sent in favour to leave the mailing list as it is. Marc always responded that he can not make all of us happy and that he stands like a rock on shutting the list down and moving us over to forums; for those of us who don't want to move, a strong unoffical list would perhaps be a better solution than moving to the forums. This list is unlikely to be ignored by the jboss group guys, so instead of bugging Marc with something he has not been likely to do for the last 4-5 months it is perhaps better to put up a different solution. this is only a suggestion and could be better than nothing. jan - -- Jan Heise / Tel: +49-163-4803237 / E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 16:32 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] jboss-user shutdown Of course, the principal point of this list is that it is looked from time-to-time (if not every time) by official people (like Marc), and then they can get some felling about users have difficulty or will put in a wish list... Putting this list in a non-oficial or non monitored list will put it in the same way that has put the Interbase mailing list at Mers (when the official developers don't intervine more, the people lose the interest in the list, since some problems are really complicated to be answered by other users, and then they came generally repeating same questions, because no one has answered for the first time). And having the list a "bogus project-name in anywhere" will make the list to not gain new readers... Just loose existing... I really ask for Marc to not shutdown this list, nor move them to a forum approach. It's a really useful work tool for me, and I think that is useful to many, many other people too. Thanks, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Heise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kristoffer Larsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: AW: [JBoss-user] jboss-user shutdown > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > hi all, > > i'm also a big fan of this mailing list although i'm mostly > lurking in the background. the pro and contra has been discussed > a while ago but Marc obviously does not want to leave the list > intact. i think it should not be a big problem for us to move the > list to a different location under some bogus project-name, > that way the list will obviously lose the 'official' status and > perhaps will also lose some members and will not gain too many > new members as i think we would not get linked on the jboss > homepage and so on... but we would have our mailing list. > i hope this is not too offensive to some of the guys but it > would definitely end this discussion. (or now starts an even bigger > one). > > just a thought, > > jan > > > - -- > Jan Heise / Tel: +49-163-4803237 / E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von > Kristoffer > Larsson > Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 14:22 > An: Pavel P. Tcholakov > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] jboss-user shutdown > > > On 4 Dec 2001, Pavel P. Tcholakov wrote: > > > > We - the users of JBoss - do need that kind of communication. > > > > I completely agree. Mailing lists are a much less intrusive form > > of Please re-consider this decision. > > I am right behind Pavel here. Mailing lists use the "push" > tenhnique, while forums use the "pull" technique, i.e., as a user > of these ways of communication you don't have to "do anything" to > receive answers and questions in a mailing list, whereas you have > to actively log on www.jboss.org and repeatedly refresh the web > page and search for new questions and answer. Forums are great when > you need to search > through their archives, but if you just want an answer to a simple > question you can just check your mail every now and then and see if > something has turned up in the mailinglist. > > Both of these ways of communications are needed. Don't close this > list. > > Kristoffer Larsson > > > > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 7.0.4 > > iQA/AwUBPAzWO5/YNqVvLvLkEQKDfwCg3+0HSgW97dWIvwNEpzlA51lm5ncAnjIn > ZrMGcIeK/P66ww0wMe2LAnYS > =MqNB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPAz7yJ/YNqVvLvLkEQJNYgCfZgojHKjhPKbJcY/LjqN+etVtdS0An2Ty OH/R21cLNosqC5+PtMEddsCM =B2x/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
