I think you will find that in 1.3 is uses non-persistent HTTP/1.1

Well at least it did a few months ago when I got ganged up on and brow
beaten into implementing AJP13 for Jetty/JBoss.

But it does work.

cheers


Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Actually, on inspecting the documentation of Apache 1.3, you are correct
> (please ignore my last email).
> 
> "This module implements a proxy/cache for Apache. It implements proxying
> capability for FTP, CONNECT (for SSL), HTTP/0.9, HTTP/1.0, and (as of Apache
> 1.3.23) HTTP/1.1. The module can be configured to connect to other proxy
> modules for these and other protocols.
> This module was experimental in Apache 1.1.x. As of Apache 1.2, mod_proxy
> stability is greatly improved.
> 
> Warning: Do not enable proxying with ProxyRequests until you have secured
> your server. Open proxy servers are dangerous both to your network and to
> the Internet at large."
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Veldhouse
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Greg Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Apache 1.3 and JBOSS 3.0.2 (w/tomcat or w/jetty)
> 
> 
> 
>>mod_proxy definitely supports HTTP/1.1 (see
>>http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html).  Does this imply
> 
> that
> 
>>it also supports keep-alives?
>>
>>Also, with mod_rewrite, we have configured apache to serve up static
> 
> content
> 
>>even within password-protected portions of the web-app.  With mod_jk, it
>>always does authentication checks.  I'm not sure how much performance that
>>buys us, but it is something.
>>
>>Another config that may affect these numbers: the default apache ssl
> 
> config
> 
>>includes the following:
>>SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" \
>>         nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \
>>         downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
>>
>>This forces all access from MS IE via https to downgrade to http/1.0.  I
>>have played around with this, and sure enough, without this, IE
> 
> periodically
> 
>>shows blank pages while browsing secure pages.  This configuration was in
>>place for both mod_jk and mod_proxy tests.
>>
>>Regardless, the numbers we have obtained speak very clearly to us.  Please
>>respond if you find that your benchmarks show something else - I would
> 
> love
> 
>>to make my site go faster!
>>
>>In the words of Mr. Schaefer: Have Fun!
>>
>>-Larry
>>
>>
>>>I think that benchmarking that shows mod_proxy as faster than mod_jk
>>>is highly suspect.
>>>
>>>While mod_jk does faff about a lot -  changing strings into single
>>>bytes and then back again, mod_proxy does not use persistent connectons
>>
>>and must
>>
>>>reestablish a TCP/IP connection for each request.
>>>
>>>I would only expect mod_proxy to be faster if the load presented was
>>>HTTP/1.0 or not kept-alive HTTP/1.1
>>>
>>>If mod_proxy does now support HTTP/1.1 persistent connections, then that
>>>is very good news as it is a much better way to forward requests (use
>>
> the
> 
>>>protocol rather than invent a new one!).
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Larry Sanderson wrote:
>>>
>>>>These are consistant with our results.  We use mod_proxy and
>>>
> mod_rewrite
> 
>>in
>>
>>>>production becaus it has given us a consistent performance edge over
>>>
> the
> 
>>>>alternatives (mod_jk, no apache, etc...).  Unfortunaty, last I
>>>
> checked,
> 
>>Tux
>>
>>>>does not support ssl, so that was not an option for us.
>>>>
>>>>-Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>As of Apache 1.3.23 I think, Apache supports HTTP/1.1 compliance in
>>>>
> it's
> 
>>>>>mod_proxy mechanism, meaning it can take advantage of persistent
>>>>>connections. That goes for the 2.x series of Apache as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Using Apache 1.3.26, JBoss 2.4.4 and several different JSP/Servlet
>>>>
>>engines
>>
>>>>>(Tomcat 3.2.4, Jetty 3.0,3.1, and Resin 2.0.5) I performed many load
>>>>
>>tests
>>
>>>>>using LoadRunner against the above configurations.  However, for each
>>>>>scenario, I tested once using mod_jk w/ ajp13 connector and a second
>>>>
>>time
>>
>>>>>using mod_rewrite and mod_proxy passing off to the http listener of
>>>>
>>>>whatever
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>jsp/servlet engine that was running.  In _every_ example, the use of
>>>>>mod_rewrite and mod_proxy together improved performance over using
>>>>>mod_jk/ajp13.  And this is in an application that uses Struts heavily.
>>>>
> I
> 
>>>>am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>currently setting up a configuration with Tomcat 4.0.3 so I can try
>>>>
>>>>testing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>with mod_webapp and see how it performs.
>>>>>
>>>>>I then found even better performance on Linux, by using the TUX kernel
>>>>
>>web
>>
>>>>>server in place of Apache and passing on all non-static requests on to
>>>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>specific jsp/servlet container being used at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>As a result, I would have to say that my testing reveals that using
>>>>
> the
> 
>>>>>latest Apaches with mod_proxy will out perform the mod_jk scenarios.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Apache 1.3 and JBOSS 3.0.2 (w/tomcat or
>>>>
>>w/jetty)
>>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:48:32 -0500
>>>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>This link points to an area that really applies to Apache2 and mod_jk2
>>>>
>>(or
>>
>>>>>proxy which has disadvantages).  I was under the impression it (Jetty)
>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>work with mod_jk and Apache 1.3.
>>>>>
>>>>>J. Michael Savage
>>>>>Datastream Development
>>>>>
>>>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>(800) 955-6775 x7646
>>>>>
>>>>>
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