>>>>> "PK" == Paul Kinnucan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PK> Which verson of the JDK are you using? 

I labeled the CD :) with 1.2 more than a jear ago... It is a dump of a
Sun demo CD with demos of a couple of developmnent environments.

BTW, in  the jde installation,  the part where  you say that  Emacs is
(much) older  than CUA and  Windows reminded me  of this piece  of the
Hacker Jargon File:

:space-cadet keyboard: /n./  A now-legendary device used on MIT
   LISP machines, which inspired several still-current jargon terms
   and influenced the design of {EMACS}.  It was equipped with no
   fewer than *seven* shift keys: four keys for {bucky bits}
   (`control', `meta', `hyper', and `super') and three like
   regular shift keys, called `shift', `top', and `front'.  Many
   keys had three symbols on them: a letter and a symbol on the top,
   and a Greek letter on the front.  For example, the `L' key had an
   `L' and a two-way arrow on the top, and the Greek letter lambda on
   the front.  By pressing this key with the right hand while playing
   an appropriate `chord' with the left hand on the shift keys, you
   could get the following results:

     L
          lowercase l

     shift-L
          uppercase L

     front-L
          lowercase lambda

     front-shift-L
          uppercase lambda

     top-L
          two-way arrow (front and shift are ignored)

   And of course each of these might also be typed with any
   combination of the control, meta, hyper, and super keys.  On this
   keyboard, you could type over 8000 different characters!  This
   allowed the user to type very complicated mathematical text, and
   also to have thousands of single-character commands at his
   disposal.  Many hackers were actually willing to memorize the
   command meanings of that many characters if it reduced typing time
   (this attitude obviously shaped the interface of EMACS).  Other
   hackers, however, thought having that many bucky bits was overkill,
   and objected that such a keyboard can require three or four hands
   to operate.  See {bucky bits}, {cokebottle}, {double bucky},
   {meta bit}, {quadruple bucky}.

   Note: early versions of this entry incorrectly identified the
   space-cadet keyboard with the `Knight keyboard'.  Though both
   were designed by Tom Knight, the latter term was properly applied
   only to a keyboard used for ITS on the PDP-10 and modeled on the
   Stanford keyboard (as described under {bucky bits}).  The true
   space-cadet keyboard evolved from the first Knight keyboard.

Even stranger, current Windows keyboard  have not only a key for Meta,
but  eveon for  hyper and  super, and  there are  "Internet Keyboards"
(luser keyboards)  with even more keys  that one could get  to work as
"top" and  "front" useful for  exploiting Java ability to  eat Unicode
sources :)

                                        Gian Uberto Lauri
                                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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