--- David Waite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Michael DuPont wrote: > > >Also there is some software with a crazy license on it, > >a "ransom" license? I thought jabber is free software? I dont want > any > >ransom software on my machine, why is in CVS if it cannot be used? > > > > > Huh? Elaborate please. I am talking about Adam Theos Ransom License on the theoretic-smtp jabber gateway.
I find it amusing and annoying on the positive side, Even creative. On the negative side I feel violated having seen this source code, now how can I implement the same under a GPL without getting into a nasty conflict? Why should I get source code out of CVS that I have to delete? I just did a "co ." to get all the branches. QUOTE "3 Once the evaluation period ends, you agree to either purchase a registered copy of the software at usd$5.00, or immediately stop any further use, copying and modification of the software and any modifications and to destroy all such copies or modifications." I mean come on! What type of BS is that? Sure Adam is only 21 years old, but it is a bit silly. I have written my questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before, and have gotten no statement from him. The point is, that it is ok, I would say to put it on his own web server, but what is it doing on the jabber server? Do you have to delete the source code from your server after 30 day? There is not anything really special about this source code, and http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/jabber.pl?rev=1.6&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup is missing any license statement. Also , how can I contribute to jabber if we are not all playing on the same level playing ground? Also, adam has been pushing to get jabber into DotGNU, project and I have not wanted to make a big deal about it, but jabber is now an officially endorsed project. But it is strange that I cannot even use his contribution as part of a GNU software, the license is totally unacceptable for a free software project and represents an inpurity that has to be removed. Dont take me as being negative, I think that he should be able to license his ideas and software as he likes, but not mixing it up with free software. I dont want anything to do wiht this ransom license for my software that is under GPL. If you feel that this is good, then collect the money, pay him off, and remove the license. Otherwise you will just scare people off. Best Regards, James Michael DuPont TWO SNIPPETS FOLLOW : [1] theoretic-smtp/README [2] theoretic-smtp/LICENSE -------------------------SNIP------------------------- [1]http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/README?rev=1.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup -------------------------SNIP------------------------- ### LICENSE You may download, use, and redistribute the source code at no cost. However, you may not modify and redistribute, or incorporate this source code into other projects. That is because the source code is not yet Open Source or Free Software. It is published under a "Ransom License", which means the rights to the source code remain restricted until a set amount of money is collected or a set date passes, at which point the code is freed. You can read the particular Ransom License used, "Theoretic's Simple Ransom License v0.9", in the LICENSE file found packaged with the SMTP-T program or from its website [http://www.theoretic.com/?JabberSMTP]. And you can help Open Source JabberSMTP by contributing to its Ransom amount [http://www.theoretic.com/?JabberSMTP/Ransom]. To find out more information about the Ransom Model, visit the Ransom website [http://www.theoretic.com/?Ransom]. -------------------------SNIP------------------------- -------------------------SNIP------------------------- [2]http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/LICENSE?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup -------------------------SNIP------------------------- ######### THEORETIC'S SIMPLE RANSOM LICENSE ########## Version 1.1 Copyright 2001 Adam Theo This Simple Ransom License covers all copyrighted material that say they are covered under the terms and conditions of the "Simple Ransom License". Use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1 You may use, copy, or modify the software at no cost for an evaluation period of up to 31 days, beginning when you first install the software on one or more computers, in order to determine whether the product meets your needs before purchasing it. 2 You may use, copy or modify the source code or binary form for your internal use only. No redistribution is allowed. This applies for both evaluation and registered copies. 3 Once the evaluation period ends, you agree to either purchase a registered copy of the software at usd$5.00, or immediately stop any further use, copying and modification of the software and any modifications and to destroy all such copies or modifications. You should make payments through PayPal (http://www.paypal.com), sending to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', although I may accept other payment methods if you talk to me about it. 4 By registering the copy to you, the copyright holder is obligated to count your payment towards the Ransom Amount of usd$100.00. When the full Ransom Amount has been collected, the source code will be automatically re-licensed under the JOSL, included below. Details and other information on this Ransom model can be found at http://www.theoretic.com/ransom, or from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. -------------------------SNIP------------------------- ===== James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
