Am I getting year old mail ?? We *have* jeps that cover this stuff.
JOBS, JID streams... head on over to http://www.jabber.org 

There is nothing illegal or unethical about me creating a document and
distributing it to people; file transfer. The RIAA argument is mute,
plain and simple. 

On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 18:47, Richard Dobson wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:39  pm, Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
> > Richard Dobson wrote:
> > [...]
> > > This is something that needs to go past the lawyers
> >> first so that they can at least supply some legalese to put on the 
> >> JEP page
> >> to indemnify the JSF from any legal repercussions (hopefully passing 
> >> the
> >> legal burden onto the end user where it should be).
> >
> > A disavantage of this can be that users want file sharing and they 
> > can't wait for all that lawyers stuff. Most of the  client developers 
> > want their client to be the most used on the whole planet (I think 
> > this is a very normal way of thinking :) ).
> 
> > Now, if you take the two together, maybe a lot of client developers 
> > will start to build their own, incompatible, (proprietary?) solutions 
> > for file sharing. "Incompatible", because there is no support from the 
> > JSF...
> 
> That maybe so that impatient people will just go and create their own 
> anyway, but the legal problems still remain and if the JSF creates and 
> promotes a protocol designed for people setup a file sharing system it 
> could bring the JSF into the firing line, IMO it is a VERY bad idea to 
> rush into a potentially very dangerous territory for the JSF just 
> because people want something now and cant wait a little while to sort 
> this stuff out and in doing so protect the JSF. I have seen this 
> argument quite a lot that people will end up building their own 
> incompatible solution if we dont do it right now, I dont believe that 
> for one second, there might be the odd one but they will be in the 
> minority, I could understand that if I was saying that the JSF should 
> not do it at all, but im not im saying that we should wait a little 
> while for the lawyers or whatever to make sure the JSF is protected 
> against any kind of comeback standardizing this feature could cause.
> 
> Richard
> 
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