TIJ starts at a level below Java, the first 100 or so pages deals with Object Orientation. It explains this very well, without dumbing down. IMO, if the pupil doesn't understand objects, they will never "get" Java. Why do you think it intermediate ? --- Tim Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you sure that "Thinking in Java" is aimed at beginners ? I thought that > it was possibly a book at the "intermediate level" rather than at the > beginner level. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:31 PM > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: books for beginner java students ???? > > > > Two booke I would whole heartedly recoomend to the novice are > > Just Java 2 - Peter Van Der Linden > > and Thinking in Java - Bruce Eckel > > ()Free @http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=314&MenuID=141) > > > > Both are well written, books aimed at the beginner, written with clarity > and humor = both a joy to > > read. > > > > --- Yan Doldonov - GGBAKU IT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Tim, > > > > > > Well, I agree that the books you mention do not do a good job. I have > > > recently purchased Java Gently and was pretty frustrated with it > > > particulary because it leads you to practice based on the author's > > > classes rather than playing with core classes (which I think you should > > > be learning). > > > > > > You may wont to look at the following book: > > > > > > Java Unleashed, Second Edition > > > (Publisher: Macmillan Computer Publishing) > > > Author(s): Michael Morrison et al > > > ISBN: 1575211971 > > > Publication Date: 12/20/96 > > > > > > Surprisingly enouth I found this book written in pretty plain language > > > with simple yet detialed enouth definitions. I have enjoyed using this > > > book to help me understand issues I had trouble with. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > Yan > > > > > > > > > +---------------------------------------------------------+ > > > Yan Doldonov > > > www.seabak.com > > > Mail-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:05 PM > > > To: JDJList > > > Subject: [jdjlist] books for beginner java students ???? > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > can someone recommend some books that would be useful for someone who is > > > = just starting at wanting to learn java ? > > > > > > I am looking for books that are easy to read/understand if possible.... > > > > > > I already have the following books however :- > > > > > > 1) Java Gently by Bishop > > > > > > 2) Java:How To Program by Deitel and Deitel > > > > > > and I found these books rather difficult to understand. > > > > > > Did anyone else find that ? > > > > > > Has anyone read the "Teach Yourself Java in 21 Days" ? > > > How did people find this book ? > > > I have bought it but I have not begun to read it yet. So I am interested > > > > > > in anyone else's opinion who know this book ? > > > > > > Does anyone else know about books that are more "user friendly" than > > > these 2 ? > > > > > > Can anyone recommend any books that would be learner friendly for a > > > beginner java student ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To change your membership options, refer to: > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > ===== > > > > Mark Zawadzki Performance Engineer/DBA/Programmer extraordinaire' > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to build > bigger and better idiots. > > > > So far, the universe is winning" > > > > Robert Cringle (columnist, author, host of "Triumph of the Nerds") > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm
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