I saw it mentioned as an intermediate textboook on a website that I was looking at.
I think I understand the basics of objects -- they are instantiated classes and they consist of "attributes" and "behaviours" ie values and methods. So that would be the basics of it I guess. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: [jdjlist] RE: books for beginner java students ???? > TIJ starts at a level below Java, the first 100 or so pages deals with Object Orientation. It > explains this very well, without dumbing down. IMO, if the pupil doesn't understand objects, they > will never "get" Java. > Why do you think it intermediate ? > --- Tim Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you sure that "Thinking in Java" is aimed at beginners ? I thought that > > it was possibly a book at the "intermediate level" rather than at the > > beginner level. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:31 PM > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: books for beginner java students ???? > > > > > > > Two booke I would whole heartedly recoomend to the novice are > > > Just Java 2 - Peter Van Der Linden > > > and Thinking in Java - Bruce Eckel > > > ()Free @http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=314&MenuID=141) > > > > > > Both are well written, books aimed at the beginner, written with clarity > > and humor = both a joy to > > > read. > > > > > > --- Yan Doldonov - GGBAKU IT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Tim, > > > > > > > > Well, I agree that the books you mention do not do a good job. I have > > > > recently purchased Java Gently and was pretty frustrated with it > > > > particulary because it leads you to practice based on the author's > > > > classes rather than playing with core classes (which I think you should > > > > be learning). > > > > > > > > You may wont to look at the following book: > > > > > > > > Java Unleashed, Second Edition > > > > (Publisher: Macmillan Computer Publishing) > > > > Author(s): Michael Morrison et al > > > > ISBN: 1575211971 > > > > Publication Date: 12/20/96 > > > > > > > > Surprisingly enouth I found this book written in pretty plain language > > > > with simple yet detialed enouth definitions. I have enjoyed using this > > > > book to help me understand issues I had trouble with. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > Yan > > > > > > > > > > > > +---------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > Yan Doldonov > > > > www.seabak.com > > > > Mail-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:05 PM > > > > To: JDJList > > > > Subject: [jdjlist] books for beginner java students ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > can someone recommend some books that would be useful for someone who is > > > > = just starting at wanting to learn java ? > > > > > > > > I am looking for books that are easy to read/understand if possible.... > > > > > > > > I already have the following books however :- > > > > > > > > 1) Java Gently by Bishop > > > > > > > > 2) Java:How To Program by Deitel and Deitel > > > > > > > > and I found these books rather difficult to understand. > > > > > > > > Did anyone else find that ? > > > > > > > > Has anyone read the "Teach Yourself Java in 21 Days" ? > > > > How did people find this book ? > > > > I have bought it but I have not begun to read it yet. So I am interested > > > > > > > > in anyone else's opinion who know this book ? > > > > > > > > Does anyone else know about books that are more "user friendly" than > > > > these 2 ? > > > > > > > > Can anyone recommend any books that would be learner friendly for a > > > > beginner java student ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To change your membership options, refer to: > > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > Mark Zawadzki Performance Engineer/DBA/Programmer extraordinaire' > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to build > > bigger and better idiots. > > > > > > So far, the universe is winning" > > > > > > Robert Cringle (columnist, author, host of "Triumph of the Nerds") > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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