Even if you never find the correct solution your quest may teach you things.
Often when I don't know how to code something I start coding the parts I know how to do and when I am done with them I usually know enough to do the next step and I end up coding the whole thing. Code as much as you can and if you don't know how to do something just put a comment about what is supposed to happen at that spot. You'll probably get much farther that you would have thought. --- Tim Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes there are many exercises, but some are for beginners, some are for > intermediate, some are for advanced and all of them do not provide > answers > at the end by which you can check your own work and see how things should > be > done. > > I don't like a problem being presented without a solution at hand. Cos if > you don't understand something, then you never learn what the right > answer > should be cos there are no solutions given. So I don't like that. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H Shankaranarayanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:32 PM > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real > world" ? > > > > Is there some problem with the list? everyone else also getting > multiple > copies? > > Tim i am begining to wonder if you ever tried your hand at coding. > People > have > > given you so many options of approaching your exercises and you now > want > to know > > wot members of this list do at their jobs. > > Start from scratch no way you can jump the line. So many books around > from > > beginners to expert level with lots of exercises.That was how i learnt. > Just a > > suggestion,take it or leave it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jason Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:48 AM > > To: JDJList > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real > > wor ld" ? > > > > > > try this for starters, we all did. :) > > > > > > public class HelloWorld { > > public static void main(String[] args) { > > System.out.println("Hello World!"); > > } > > } > > > > My next program was on raw network sockets..... a few sleepless night I > have > > to admit. > > > > Jase > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 26 September 2002 15:35 > > To: JDJList > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real > > wor ld" ? > > > > > > Can you please give some examples of the kind of code you write in your > job > > so that I can see if it is stuff that I am likely to be able to > understand > > and grasp ? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:41 PM > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real > wor > > ld" ? > > > > > > > I thought about this for a while, and it's not an easy answer. A lot > > > depends on where you work. If you are not lucky, then you get stuck > > > programming in a language you hate and your life can be a living > hell. > On > > > the other hand, if you work for a good company, then life is pretty > good. > > > For instance I work at a company that is medium to small (200 > employees) > > but > > > has money. I'm the technical lead, but also our architect. I get to > wear > > > multiple hats which makes my job interesting and I try to keep our > > > programmers interested by having them learn knew technology along the > way. > > > > > > In general, programming in the real world means your ass is on the > line > > > because you're expected to perform at a certain competency level. I > > mentor > > > our junior programmers, but I also expect a lot out of them. If you > > always > > > write crappy code, eventually you'll be called on the carpet or given > > really > > > weak assignments. > > > > > > You also need to leave your ego at the door. That was the hardest > thing > > for > > > me to do when I first started. After a while I saw the light. It > doesn't > > > take too long when you have to work on someone's poorly documented, > > > obfuscated, hacked up POS code. > > > > > > Programming in the real world is pressure. It seems like there is > always > > > some unrealistic deadline set by some marketing person or a vp -- > "It's > > > vital to our business". User's never know what they want, they only > know > > > that what you gave them was not it and they all think they are the > only > > ones > > > with a problem. And anyone who has ever gone through a major > > implementation > > > can tell you, those suck beyond belief. > > > > > > On the other hand, you get to do a job that's like nothing else. > You're > > > part of a community that the rest of the company just can't fathom. > You > > can > > > tend to get away with things others don't, especially if you're good. > I > > go > > > ride my bicycle two hours a day in the middle of the day. Nobody > says a > > > thing because it keeps me sane, and my work never suffers. A number > of > > our > > > programmers keep some odd hours but as long as the work gets done, > nobody > > > minds much. > > > > > > From a purely technical standpoint programs written in the real world > are > > > vastly more complex than what you'll write in high school and > college. > > > However, the basic structure of the programs is still the same. It's > just > > > that the programs themselves are larger and more complex. > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:18 AM > > > To: JDJList > > > Subject: [jdjlist] what is it like to be a programmer "in the real > > > world" ? > > > > > > > > > And to Joseph or anyone else who would like to answer:- > > > > > > Can you possibly tell me what it is like to be a programmer (in I > assume > > the > > > Java language) in the real world ? What I mean really by that is, > what > > sort > > > of code do you write in your job ? I assume you are working as a > computer > > > programmer ? > > > > > > So what sort of code do you produce and work with in your job ? And > is > > this > > > difficult code ? Would I find it difficult to understand and work > with ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joseph B. Ottinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:12 PM > > > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: two exercises I am trying to solve at the > > moment.... > > > > > > > > > > RE: [jdjlist] Re: J2MEWell, Tim, the first step is to read the > > suggestions > > > > made by your coursework. Start small; write functions that do the > simple > > > > stuff first. Break the problems down (although most of the work has > been > > > > done for you already.) Man, these questions have gotten easier > since > *I* > > > was > > > > in grade 9. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Tim Nicholson > > > > To: JDJList > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:09 AM > > > > Subject: [jdjlist] two exercises I am trying to solve at the > moment.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone again, > > > > > > > > this is in addition to the previous email that I sent but this is > on a > > > > rather different topic. > > > > > > > > I am trying to work through some problems/exercises and I was > wondering > > if > > > > anyone might be able to suggest how I might be able to solve these > > > problems > > > > ? > > > > > > > > Like I said before, this email is on a different topic to the email > that > > I > > > > sent before. > > > > > > > > The 1st problem I was wondering if anyone could help me on is as > follows > > > :- > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > > > Design and implement a program that allows the user to input a > number > in > > > any > > > > base (2..16) as a string of digits (0..9, A..F) and the base that > the > > > number > > > > is in and displays the value in decimal of the input number. > > > > Your program must have two function methods that respectively > return: > > > > the value of one digit character; and > > > > the value of a whole string of digits in a given base. > > > > Hint: The first of those functions makes it easier to write the > second. > > > > Your program may have a BreezySwing or text-only interface > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > And the second one is like this :- > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > Write a program that allows the user to input any int value and > outputs > > > that > > > > number in words. > > > > Examples: > > > > inputoutput > > > > 0zero > > > > 3three > > > > 13thirteen > > > > 23twenty-three > > > > 223223two hundred and twenty-three thousand, two hundred and > > twenty-three > > > > 223223223two hundred and twenty-three million, two hundred and > > > twenty-three > > > > thousand, two hundred and twenty-three > > > > >2147483647two billion, one hundred and forty-seven million, four > > hundred > > > > and eighty-three thousand, six hundred and forty-seven > > > > -1minus one > > > > > > > > Your program must have three function methods that respectively > return: > > > > a value between 1 and 9 in words; > > > > a value between 1 and 999 in words; and > > > > any int value in words. > > > > Hint: The first of those functions makes it easier to write the > second > > and > > > > writing the second will help write the third. > > > > Good solutions may have even more functions. > > > > > > > ========================================================================= > > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > I really don't have a clue how to solve these so any help as to > what > > sort > > > of > > > > algorithm and java code implementation that I could use, would be > very > > > much > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > ______________________________________________ > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm ===== James Amos Nathaniel Stauffer Stauffer_James @yahoo.com Spam food: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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